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[CM1995]

They will eat the Ford vehicles too, except they get an extra boost to gnaw away faster and longer...
https://corporate.ford.com/articles...alds-coffee-bean-car-parts-collaboration.html

Great now charcoal is going to be more expensive..

 

[Truck Shop]

 

[Spud_Monkey]

This is not slanted at the poster, but at who made the video
So where did all the copper go that people no longer use to plumb houses anymore, Commiefornia is sticking Prop 65 stickers on every copper product running pansies away from touching it, aluminum wiring is what is used in transmission power lines due to weight and ability to run it longer and what will be upgraded to larger MCM size for more EV's on the grid. So you use more copper wiring in length in a EV than ICE vehicle, yeah well someone forgot to mention that battery cable going to alternator and starter has 12V and all the sensors and is why it's so large due to high amperage low voltage versus a EV has high voltage using thinner less strand wires than a ICE. Copper radiators are a thing of the past, aluminum ones are all what you mostly can find, should we go down to welding machines that use aluminum transformers instead of copper amongst other tools and lets go to appliances where they took copper out of such as AC's. Let's break it down to telecommunications, yeah your phone line is no longer copper either that went to fiber optics and so forth and that's for those who still have a phone on the wall.
Fear mongering for gain on the all mighty dollar and control of the populace is what that is about, alright you sheeple right this way...

 

[Truck Shop]

That's the reason I posted it Spud, it's a easily manipulated commodity.

 

[DMiller]

Copper in socks and underwear as well ortho braces. Seeing more copper in jewelry at craft crap sales as use up the scrap they can get hold of. For some
Reason Bronze has become a necessity as to burials again where that copper does not come back to markets. To get higher torque with better heat dispersion EV motors are copper wound, Tesla is about the only one using aluminum in motor cores.

Surprisingly aluminum is still low in price while ACSR is being manufactured in
Large volumes to replace aged HV lines. And for some reason seeing a larger number of heavy reel hauls with large MCM copper conductor in them.

 

[terex herder]

The scrap copper price is down about 25% from the high earlier this year. Buy copper futures if you believe we are running out of copper.

 

[DMiller]

Another less visual use of Copper, and becoming global is Whiskey/Whisky production, they tried SS Stills, yet had Iron damage the end product, back to Copper where there has been a 15% increase in production facilities just in the US. Tower Stills and Pot Stills take a massive volume of Copper/Brass to produce.

 

[John C.]

I didn't see the video as a hit piece trying to sway public opinion toward any nefarious purpose. It was only laying out the availability of ore and the capability of salvage and reuse. The visuals shows some of its many uses. It stated obvious facts concerning the future of the element in our societies as we swing to a more electrified future. My only assumption is that it was produced to provide facts and stimulate thought.

 

[Delmer]

The video was sensational more than nefarious. Lots of metal substitution going on. Like they say, the stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones. Current copper prices are low compared to actual inflation.

 

[DMiller]

A little update received of BIL at METRO, Buses STILL Down, first try to reseal, lasted two days, Cummins removed the battery units, replaced all the connecting flex joints and connections, that lasted a week. Buses parked at Cummins MO awaiting the Battery Supplier to FIX THEIR PROBLEM, may be some time before Return To Service!!

 

[cfherrman]

That's a bummer, they should be able to fix that, at least you would think so.

 

[DMiller]

Something with too much flexing and thermal expansion contraction rates.

Brings up “worked well on Paper” just not in real life.

 

[Former Wrench]

I see years of miles of stalled traffic because of dead batteries or batteries that drained too fast or other electrical issues. 10-15+ mile backups that result in electric cars going dead to add to the problem. Going to need to keep a fleet of diesel powered wreckers on hand to bail out the greenies.

 

[Truck Shop]

I see years of miles of stalled traffic because of dead batteries or batteries that drained too fast or other electrical issues. 10-15+ mile backups that result in electric cars going dead to add to the problem. Going to need to keep a fleet of diesel powered wreckers on hand to bail out the greenies.

Funny you should bring that up sales of roll-decks has increased as the choice, almost 2 to 1 in some
metro areas.

 

[92U 3406]

Just heard a rumour that companies with 50+ trucks will have to run electric in California by 2025. Seems a bit ambitious, aren't they already having issues with supplying enough power to just power houses in that state?

 

[Truck Shop]

 

[Jumbo]

From 2000, to 2010 when I retired, the amount of wire we pulled in a building better than doubled. Everything needed a "dedicated circuit." The electrical closets per floor went from a simple closet with 4-6, 42 circuit panels to a room with it's own dedicated AC and 10-25 or more per floor 42 circuit panels. I personally never felt I saw a true need, but equipment suppliers demanded them. No dedicated circuit, no warranty on the copier for example. It has only gotten worse listening to those still working at the trade. I sometimes wonder if the dedicated circuit count has become a new phallic symbol rating how manly you are.

 

[DMiller]

I set up our house separate ceiling and wall circuits each room on its own at least two breaker circuits, master b/r has three two upstairs baths two each. Kitchen has five including island, fridge, wall outlets, under sink, overhead lighting. L/R has four, two wall circuits, over head lights and then floor outlets.
Set up that way as did not enjoy tripping a breaker and stumbling out a dark area, we do not lose all per room if trip one. And all circuits 20a on 120v 12ga wiring.

 

[DMiller]

Couple issues with H2, it is not easily attained except from Natural Gas, development from electrolysis or other forms uses more energy than that H2 can return as to a Fuel, Fuel Cells still require O2 as well for the reaction and while do deliver water the volumetric quotient of Energy to Volume of gas is great on a Space Craft but about functionless in autos. Still better off with a Small IC engine Hybrid consuming conventional fuels.

 

[terex herder]

... development from electrolysis or other forms uses more energy than that H2 can return as to a Fuel ...

That is true of all energy conversions, First Law of Thermodynamics says so. Violate it and you will disappear in a flash of anti-matter. The same can be said about refining crude oil. The benefit comes from either a release at a more beneficial time, or a more usable form. No different than Taum Sauk.

The benefit could come from electrolysis using power from windmills when the wind is blowing on mild weekends and there is little usage for the electricity. The problem is making a process cheap enough to work with a single digit duty cycle.

Hydrogen's biggest problem is storage. That, and the perception from the pictures of the Hindenburg crash/fire.