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Great Job Farm Boy, on explaination of CNH..but can I change one small part and muddy the water more.
CNH or Fiat did not buy ALL of O&K, but only the 50 ton and down excavators and wheel loaders. TEREX bought the larger 60 ton and up excavators...which now they are negotiating with Cat for some type of deal.
Kobelco makes the mini's for NH, Kobelco and Case, but Case larger machines are Sumitomo...for now...Case just announced some type of joint venture with Hyundai...supposedly for one large wheel loader???? Can't wait to see how that comes out.
Some case models in South America are Kobelco's in larger sizes..example the 20 ton
Case design and NH Dozers are made at the Kobelco factory in Calhoun Georgia. The larger Case dozers are Fiat.
The MDI Yutani machine was OEM brand of Kobelco, but made by Kobelco and distributed by the old Mitsubishi dealers, as they lost the Mitsubishi excavator line when Cat bought into deeper the Shin Caterpillar Mitsubishi organization and took over the Akashi Factory, which made the Mitsubishi Excavator. Most of these dealers became Kobelco later. Note, In Japan, the Mitsubishi Motor Graders are marketed as Cat out of Sagamihara.
LBX which calls the excavator Link Belt in the US, but Sumitomo in Japan, is partly owned by Case in the US ONLY. Note, in Europe, the NH 80 ton machine is or was a Sumitomo, but now Kobelco produces a much better machine so I guess that will change????
Furukawa was, not sure now, involved with Mitsubishi Corporation early and then John Deere.
In Japan, Kobelco also produced, not sure now EXCAVATORS for Kawasaki,,,who also supplied wheel loaders to Kobelco,,but not now.
Sumitomo also produced another brand of excavator that I have seen as gray market in the Northwest area..cannot remember the name.
Massey Fergesson changed hands and became Fermac and produced Kobelco mini's under license in the EU, sold Loader Backhoes to Kobelco, was bought by Case, who had to sell the factory when Fiat got involved and is now owned by Terex.
Case has had so many excavator manufacturers, that I cannot remember them all. Drott, Case, Proclain, Sumitomo, LBX, Kobelco, ???
Just to add...Whew!! The European Yumbo excavator was the beginnings of Mitsubishi excavators,,who are now Cat,
Bucyrus Erie had a joint venture with Komatsu to design their early machines. They can still be seen in Japan as Komatsu/Bucyrus. Yutani Heavy Industries (Back Ground Poclain) was the company purchased by Kobe steel to expand their line, which was based upon Cat.
Hyundai came from a joint Venture with Kobelco also.
JSW when they stopped producing excavators, were OEM branded by IHI.
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