Good places to find heavy spec trucks?

[Hallback]

I could always add a pony axle behind the drivers too.

 

[crane operator]

How much wheel base do you need on the truck for bridge?

 

[Spud_Monkey]

Heck with my 4:89 rears yet to be tested on what I can pull, I should tow around at close to highway speeds with 18k trailer no problem over the mountains with DT466. Truck weighs around 12k.

 

[Junkyard]

I could always add a pony axle behind the drivers too.

Don’t. It sucks! I’ve had two that way. Don’t get around very good and get stuck rather easy when the tag axle takes all the weight and the drives get light. Pusher by far the best setup.

 

[Welder Dave]

Richie Bros. in Nisku gets lots of heavy oilfield trucks. I'd check the auction lists online. Lots of oilfield related businesses are closing or downsizing.

 

[Hallback]

Thanks Dave!

Crane Op,
I see that the heavy hitter lowbedders around here run the pony axles a lot but I always thought like you said. I know that the log trucks with the double dropsare always getting hung up alot.

 

[John C.]

I don't know a source anymore but used to see the King County solid waste trucks down at Puget Sound Truck in Pacific. Most of those were heavy spec some years ago but I think they are all air suspension now days. All I've put my hands on were 450 plus HP, 18 speed, heavy rears with Hendrickson suspension and wet kits. The other municipal entity was the City of Seattle water department used to surplus some heavy spec stuff with low miles. All that might be getting traded in on new now days. Just haven't been around trucks much anymore. I kind of appreciate that though.

 

[Cody danos]

Just a quick question, but does 52,000 rears mean each rear axle is rated at 52k? Or is that combined?

 

[Wes J]

Combined. It's a tandem rating.

I don't know what state would permit 26k on any axle. Illinois will give you 22K if things are just right. Probably more important for off highway use.

 

[Cody danos]

So for a rig with planetarys like this, it would be two 35,000 pound axles?

https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/trucks/for-sale/27975913/2004-kenworth-t800w

 

[crane operator]

Here's one more, not super close to you, but montana is closer than michigan. Its 20k front, 46 rears, double frame with a aux. looks like a lift axle on it also.


https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/trucks/for-sale/27976369/2007-kenworth-t800?ST=montana&CTRY=usa

9' wide- pull the sleeper off?

https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/trucks/for-sale/27572121/2010-kenworth-c500?CTRY=USA

 

[Junkyard]

So for a rig with planetarys like this, it would be two 35,000 pound axles?

https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/trucks/for-sale/27975913/2004-kenworth-t800w

Yes you could say each is 35k. Those will never see 70k vertical load on them per their intended use. Planetaries reduce driveline stress dramatically so in heavy work like a push/pull you lessen the chance of popping an axle etc. I ran a set of trucks that were setup similar and even had fuses in the driveline.

That’s a lot of truck for the $$.

 

[Wes J]

Interesting brake chambers on those 70K rears.

 

[crane operator]

I don't know what they were doing with this truck, but its only 250,000 miles and they got new engine, clutch, motormounts, new ecm wiring harness, recon transmission. That seems like a lot of work done to a 2015.

https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/trucks/for-sale/27292915/2015-kenworth-t800w?CTRY=USA


Would have to add the heavy front axle on this one:

https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/trucks/for-sale/23851763/2006-kenworth-w900?CTRY=USA

 

[Hallback]

The green 2015 T800 was crashed. It rear-ended another tractor and that's why everything has been replaced. It pushed the engine into the cab and so it has a new cab, front end Etc.

 

[Hallback]

It's not the fact that it would permit 26000 pounds per axle it's the fact that the axle is rated to carry that much so it is much heavier Duty and stronger than a 20000 pound axle which most tractors have common today. For logging use and Heavy Haul applications such as moving yarder around in the woods you want a strong as you can get. Preferably a set of planetaries but they aren't very practicle for much highway use.

Combined. It's a tandem rating.

I don't know what state would permit 26k on any axle. Illinois will give you 22K if things are just right. Probably more important for off highway use.

 

[Cody danos]

Yes you could say each is 35k. Those will never see 70k vertical load on them per their intended use. Planetaries reduce driveline stress dramatically so in heavy work like a push/pull you lessen the chance of popping an axle etc. I ran a set of trucks that were setup similar and even had fuses in the driveline.

That’s a lot of truck for the $$.

Would the suspension rating make a difference or does that not matter to much? Just wondering cause I hear guys talking a lot more about axle ratings than about suspension ratings

 

[Junkyard]

Would the suspension rating make a difference or does that not matter to much? Just wondering cause I hear guys talking a lot more about axle ratings than about suspension ratings

Suspension capacity and rating is matched to the axle rating.

 

[Cody danos]

Gotcha
So basically that truck would have a 70,000 pound suspension

 

[Junkyard]

Gotcha
So basically that truck would have a 70,000 pound suspension

Yes. I have seen some 70k planetaries on 65k Neway Air ride. GVW of the truck would reflect a 65k rear end capacity in that instance.