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What's your hoe doing?

Discussion in 'Tractor/Loader/Backhoes' started by aighead, Sep 13, 2019.

  1. hookedondiesel

    hookedondiesel Senior Member

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    JAKES, love those tires on your Cat.
     
  2. Honcho

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    Jakes is it 428F, or what. I guess a Cat has most beautiful boom
     
  3. Spud_Monkey

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    My hoe has mouth full of scrap steel waiting to dump it soon as I go get a manure spreader someone is tossing to put it in. Picked up two 3rd members from some Eaton axles, a 9 speed transmission that is destroyed and some scrap from the ramps it broke loading up when I picked her up. Next is time to fix the mud hole I created loading up said metal in someones yard :p then taking her on road trip home where she belongs.
     
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    Mine's taken up gardening. There's a Case 580C under there... Things grow so fast here!
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  5. JAKES.

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    They are great on the gravel roads. The brand is IRT.
    It is a 420E it with a Wain-Roy swing coupler also a Central Forge thumb.
     
  6. Willie B

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    I'm particularly interested in those tires. Last round of buying backhoe tires I looked into them, they were hundreds more than conventional R4 tread. They look to me like they wouldn't sink as deep into a lawn, and with tire chains they'd put more chain onto the ground.
     
  7. JAKES.

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    I must correct myself: the tires are BKT brand and are 12 ply.yes Willie it seems like you have more contact to the ground. Also this hoe came from your neck of the woods it was from the hwy dept. of Springfield,Vt.
     
  8. Spud_Monkey

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    Well due to Covid-19 that ain't happening now. Some nay sayer, Covid-19 denier, conspiracy theorist has Covid-19 with his wife and they are in their 70's. Thankfully I called before showing, one is doing fine the other one might kick the bucket. Such as it is moving on with mine and scratching it off my list.
    Guess I will lay tarp down dump it on it, bundle it up and tie a rope around it.
     
  9. Steve Favia

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    Waiting for enough snow my snowblower can’t handle!
     
  10. Willie B

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    My father worked for The Town Of Danby after World War 2. The road crew had a Caterpillar D6 at the time. Equipped with a massive V plow, it'd go through EVERYTHING. But with the V plow, it couldn't push directly through very deep snow. Much of it ended under the tracks, or pushed out in front of the belly. Pushing to one side at a time was necessary. For that purpose, the plow was only 5-1/2 feet wide.
    Blood street was a level road across a sidehill. Stone walls were 10' above the road on one side, 4' above on the other side. The town road crew was working the 10' deep drifts of powder, when they heard banging. Shutting down to hear, Asil Ricketts came into view in his Model A converted to a truck. He was driving on the top of the stone wall 10' above the road.

    The storm this week, Danby hired a very large crawler to plow "the west side"
     
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  11. aighead

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    Me and my hoe went to the neighbors to help out again yesterday... Turns out the help was more in the realm of chainsawing than hoeing. He paid me in some big pieces of Maple tree he'd recently had taken down.

    That said, we spent about half an hour trying to chain up two decent sized logs, so I could drag them back to my house. He's like 84 years old, slow moving, hardly understandable, and always wants help with something, but he's a good fella and seems to know some stuff and he works harder than I do. Well, after wrestling these logs around and getting them home, I proceeded to buy some clamp on forks. I've heard of a lot of the complaints of use for these type of things with a loader bucket but for a couple hundred bucks even the occasional usage to pick up some stuff like this is worth it.

    I'm also working on a project to build a wood drying kiln and forks will help load that too, though I assume there'll be a learning curve.
     
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  12. Swetz

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    aighead,

    I have herd the complaints here, and agree with most, but, the set I have for my compact tractor have really bailed me out, and therefore were worthwhile. My problem with them is that I cannot see the forks for the bucket. I nearly ripped the rails off my front porch with them before I realized where they were (shhh don't tell the wife:D).

    So, if you realize upfront that you did not purchase a forklift, you will prolly be fine, just don't overload them. I have herd the stories of them bending the bucket bottom. The ones on my compact tractor have plates welded to each side to spread the weight and keep them straight.

    I am always all in to help an old timer that wants too but his body says no. I teach waaay to many young people that have the body to, but no desire to...kinda a shame!
     
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  13. NH575E

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    Those clamp on tube forks are not a good fit for a full size hoe. You need the solid type that hook onto a bar on top of the bucket.

    I tried a set that claimed a 4000 lb capacity that bent the first time I used them. I was able to straighten and weld them so I can use them on my small tractor.
     
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    NH575E has brought up a good point about the forks fitting a full size tractor bucket. I hope the ones that you purchased are wide enough to fit over the cutting edge on your tractor. The ones I have for my compact tractor will not physically fit over the cutting edge, so they cannot be used. I think the ones I have were rated for 4000# as well. My compact tractor only lifts ~900#, so I don't think I can bend them. If I was able to get them on my ful size tractor, I bet I could bend them in a min! That 675E has some power!
     
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  15. aighead

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    Welp, I guess we'll see. The ones I bought theoretically have holes in the top that you can jam some 2x4s to at least give some visual... Hopefully they fit over the cutting edge. I don't really need them for anything too crazy but lifting a log could be very handy.
     
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    The ones I bought fit over the edge fine and even had a cross beam stabilizer to connect the two forks together. I think I caught one on a root getting under a log and folded one down. They may work as intended to a point if you are careful. I used 2" ratchet straps to go around the bottom and over the top of the bucket to achieve the rated lift capacity but it was short lived.

    Even on my little tractor with the stabilizer bar they seem to want to shift crooked. If you are going to use forks then try to get REAL forks. Mine were a waist of money.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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  17. aighead

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    Zoiks @NH575E ! That appears to be the same kind I got... Even if I end up learning a hard lesson 200 bucks isn't that expensive of one... I like your ratchet strap solution! And now that I see your pictures it's more clear to me how they would shift around. I wonder, if, assuming I don't hate them or break them, if there's a solution to hold them in place a little better. I can see how those clamps may just provide a pivoting spot for them.
     
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    The forks are designed to have straps or chain like I had it. There are hook holes in the bottom underneath and the tops of the extensions on top. You hook into the bottom holes and wrap it around to the top and cinch it down. I think without that it said they were rated for 1500 lbs. I have used them on my tractor that has a 1200 lb lift capacity without causing any further damage.

    I had some flat bar under the clamp pads

    Maybe weld some flat plate under where mine bent and move the stabilizer further out from the bucket? Or some angle out a foot or so on the bottom corners? It's just going to find the next weakest spot if you hang it on something.
     
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  19. Willie B

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    Mine are simple. Anybody with a simple welder could copy. They are built of rectangular tubing with a bit of reinforcing added at the base of each L shaped member. At top is a piece of DOM tubing. Passing through is a rod.
    Three hooks are welded at top of bucket to grab the rod.

    I grab the forks without moving from the driver's seat.

    I did once borrow a set of the clamp to bucket lip style. I couldn't keep them pointed forward.
     
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    How are we gonna copy them without pics? CMON MAN show us the stuff!
     
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