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Old Poclain Excavator

Bellboy

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To be honest, those first few pics, someone may have thought that that was a real innovation, but today it is just mubi lelik. Ugly. I'm sorry.
 

paulrochester

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In response to a question, there was no 1200 Poclain machine, the 1000 was the largest they ever got; and was the largest hydraulic excavator in the world for a short period until Germany-based manufacturers started entering the field (O&K, Demag etc).

I found this post somewhat by accident as I was looking for identification features of the smaller Poclain machines (75, 85 and 90) in a somewhat vain hope of getting a model number of this machine which I happened to find today working at a scrapyard in Newcastle up here in the north-east of England:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/balacau/Misc stuff/misc/Poclainscraphandler.jpg

There is another yard located on the bank of the river Tyne which also has a Poclain 85 scraphandler, very similarly outfitted to the unidentified machine above; standard mount cab with the long dipper and 5-tine grab.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/balacau/Misc stuff/misc/quayside076.jpg

If anyone could ID the top picture for me I'd really appreciate it!

The picture is of a 1988 Poclain 85 CKB fitted with rehanding equipment , I was the engineer who looked after this equipment from new , I worked for the selling dealer the north east U.K A Poclain 85 was the top half of a 75 fitted with a 90 under structure to improve ground area when used on this application with long boom and stick /grab . the 75 had a 5 cylinder engine F5L912 , the 90 had a 6cylinder engine fitted F6L912.
 

paulrochester

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Manuals /info

what model poclain manuals are you looking for ??

Contact me I have the full range of Poclain excavator manuals , they did not make a worksop manual for each model however they did do a mechanics hand book with all the info in it , but if you were not a Poclain engineer they could be hard work, if you have a problem with any part of your equipment , tell me what it is and I may be able to help you as I was Poclain engineer from 1985 untill 2000. I have a understanding of the full range including 60 - 1000 c 61/81 , 88 range . powersensor and the later Sumitomo type Cx range .
 

Gavin Phillips

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The picture is of a 1988 Poclain 85 CKB fitted with rehanding equipment , I was the engineer who looked after this equipment from new , I worked for the selling dealer the north east U.K A Poclain 85 was the top half of a 75 fitted with a 90 under structure to improve ground area when used on this application with long boom and stick /grab . the 75 had a 5 cylinder engine F5L912 , the 90 had a 6cylinder engine fitted F6L912.

Thanks alot for the information. :)

I was honestly surprised to see a Poclain still at work on a regular jobsite, especially these days the older machines just get replaced very quickly by machines which are in turn replaced very soon afterwards! :beatsme I cannot remember ever seeing a wheeled Poclain excavator however...
 

Dominion 410

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Poclain

Sure remember those machines.We had three RC-200's,one HC-300 and a 220.Have some pics and will try to post them.They were decent machines for their era,and could do the work.We used Shell Tellus 32 in the winter and 68 in the summer for hydraulic oil.I operated the 200's mainly on sewer/watermain work and some bulk excavation jobs.Good visibilty,reach and balance imo.The short tracks were not much of a problem if you took the time to level up the work area.Sometime had to kick a little dirt under the front of the tracks and walk up on it to help if the machine rocked.Installed an extra hydraulic oil cooler on one of the 200's that was equipped with a NPK H-14X breaker,plus many other "in house" modifications.This helped with keeping the machine at a much lower operating temperature especially in the summer months.Others included exhaust sytem and isolating the engine from the machine frame as they were solid mounted from the factory(steel on steel).
 

paulrochester

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Thanks alot for the information. :)

I was honestly surprised to see a Poclain still at work on a regular jobsite, especially these days the older machines just get replaced very quickly by machines which are in turn replaced very soon afterwards! :beatsme I cannot remember ever seeing a wheeled Poclain excavator however...

Yes the wheeled model went from the 60p up to the 125p thats what the "p" Pneumatic was for . there was loads of them in the north east .
 

Taylortractornu

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Nick I pick up a Classic Plant and Machinery book every month at the tractor store, usually the only reason I make the 25 mile trip there is that book. I have some older pictures of a TY45 that had a variable geometry boom with a hydraulic side shift like a modern compact. It was amazing for its day. I also enjoyed the MRS articles. I have a friend that introduced me to one of the founders of MRS scrapers and tractors. I also live about 95 miles from ther new site of the Ace of Spades in Akerman MS. We are planning a trip down there in a few weeks.
 

Iron Horse

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I had a hot hydraulic oil shower when my old girl split the header tank on the oil cooler while i had the window open . I did'nt know there were so many swear words in my vocabulary .
 

juglad

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Hi,

I have recently aquired a poclain 60 13 tonne tracked machine and could do with as much information as possible especially any owner/workshop or mechanic manuals. She is working well with a few hydraulic drips but I would like to keep her running and improve her condition. I see you say you may have some manuals etc. Please contact me asap.
 

vilagravilius

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Poclain 61

Hi, all.
I have this Poclain 61 wheeled excavator.
I need some spare parts for it, used maybe as the new ones aren't availible.
Can anyone help me with this ?
 

bigblueox

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read the earlier pages of this thread. A man named bernie from rapid machinery should be able to help you out. he keeps me going!
 

vilagravilius

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Poclain 61

Mr. Bernie couldn't help me, he has only Poclain 60. Can someoneelse have Poclain 61 for spares, or maybe new spares somewhere? I need two of hydraulic pump couplings. CASE p/n W7646232 & A6546260 and CASE cannot supply these. Please help
 

lazygit

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:BangheadHi there
I`m new to this, I have what I believe to be a Poclain 60/61 tracked digger.
It will not slew properly. I would like to obtain a workshop manual to check out the hydraulic circuits etc. I live in Cambridgeshire,hope you may be able to help
thanks Lazygit.
 
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Mc 100

hi everyone, i have a mc100 for the 76, i am loking for the hidraulic diagrams presure and return diagrams, i will post a picture soon, i am in the middle of the jungle in the amazon area:drinkup
 
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mc 100

Contact me I have the full range of Poclain excavator manuals , they did not make a worksop manual for each model however they did do a mechanics hand book with all the info in it , but if you were not a Poclain engineer they could be hard work, if you have a problem with any part of your equipment , tell me what it is and I may be able to help you as I was Poclain engineer from 1985 untill 2000. I have a understanding of the full range including 60 - 1000 c 61/81 , 88 range . powersensor and the later Sumitomo type Cx range .

is good to know some one have books of these special machine, i have a old copy of a spare parts book for the mc100 , is in very bad conditions, i hope you can help me with the hidraulic diagram (presure and return lines) i rely dont know what year is my machine, the only rference is a date in the small pump under the pl pump, 76
thanks for your time:notworthy
 

RED-355

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old beast

Hi guys,

im thinking of buy this old beast. i believe its a SC150.im not sure if it is the K model however. I dont know much about it at all really so i relying on some helpful people on this site to help out!!!

i have a farm so id love one of these. i dont want to spend a whole lot on the purchase price, but over time i dont mind throwing $1000 here and there, just as long as its not heaps. the owner says that the 'beast' runs like a dream and will dig to china. BUT..........the track motors play up, im assuming thats the final drives????? he said once the oil gets hot one drive goes slow and moving from place to place is difficult as it wants to go around in a circle.
i think it has an air cooler Deutz motor in it???, which have a great reputation.

now does anyone know what brand of track motors/final drives this thing would have in it?? ,so i can see if i can get them fixed!!!

also any tips on removing them?? also where can i buy a manual or get some information on it!!!

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mc100

Hi guys,

im thinking of buy this old beast. i believe its a SC150.im not sure if it is the K model however. I dont know much about it at all really so i relying on some helpful people on this site to help out!!!

i have a farm so id love one of these. i dont want to spend a whole lot on the purchase price, but over time i dont mind throwing $1000 here and there, just as long as its not heaps. the owner says that the 'beast' runs like a dream and will dig to china. BUT..........the track motors play up, im assuming thats the final drives????? he said once the oil gets hot one drive goes slow and moving from place to place is difficult as it wants to go around in a circle.
i think it has an air cooler Deutz motor in it???, which have a great reputation.

now does anyone know what brand of track motors/final drives this thing would have in it?? ,so i can see if i can get them fixed!!!

also any tips on removing them?? also where can i buy a manual or get some information on it!!!

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i think i have the same machine you show in the pic, my is a mc100 , i have the same problem when the oil is geting hot, it goes to one side, i change the viscocity for the oil, but ones geting hot start doing again, and the wether ofcourse, my place is hot all the year, try to go to poclainHidraulics, they show the pumps and the motors .
Can you take a picture of the hidraulic pipes and hose and valves, that will help me alot to compare, the last owner chance almost all the pipes for hose for my machine.
Thanks
 
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