Cat track loader purchase

[Nige]

Next cold start i'll give the old ether button a try, who would've thought that cat would put a glow plug/intake heater button, and indicator light in a machine without any function...

It's a "standard" monitor panel probably used in a couple of hundred different machine models (188 that I can find), only some of which will be equipped with air intake heaters. Eaiser to have something that is all-singing all-dancing and not use a specific function in some applications than have a slew of different part numbers IMO.

 

[ippielb]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, haven't done much with the loader, but decided to put some videos up, made a youtube account for it.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-WlKqa2JFe5ofqdfjSSEfw There's the channel if anyone's interested.

 

[ippielb]

Here's a few videos i put up.

 

[ippielb]

Got quite a few more videos on the YouTube.

in my internet browsing, seems I’ve come across a ripper for a 973. It is a take off from a 973d model. But it appears to be the same. Can anyone confirm?

they have it priced at 10,500.

 

[Nige]

By Part Number the Ripper Arrgt to fit a 973D (283-7195) is different to the one for a C model machine (161-5692).

So before delving down the rabbit hole of the exact differences between one and the other, ask the seller to give you the Serial Number of the one in the photo so it can be identified. The plate is right there on the RH tower above the green sticker showing the lifting point.

 

[ippielb]

By Part Number the Ripper Arrgt to fit a 973D (283-7195) is different to the one for a C model machine (161-5692).

So before delving down the rabbit hole of the exact differences between one and the other, ask the seller to give you the Serial Number of the one in the photo so it can be identified. The plate is right there on the RH tower above the green sticker showing the lifting point.

perfect, thanks just waiting a call back with info.

 

[ippielb]

picture is worth a thousand words lol

 

[Nige]

S6C-prefix. Definitely a 283-7915 Ripper Arrgt from an LCP-prefix 973D machine.
Does it have the lines and the 3rd section for the Control Valve (you'd need both of those) or just what you see in the photo.?
Would you like to know what the differences are..?

 

[ippielb]

S6C-prefix. Definitely a 283-7915 Ripper Arrgt from an LCP-prefix 973D machine.
Does it have the lines and the 3rd section for the Control Valve (you'd need both of those) or just what you see in the photo.?
Would you like to know what the differences are..?

Looking at it there is some differences between the C model ripper and the D model, my main concern is it fitting on the machine properly with the correct pins. As well as it being able to cycle it’s range of motion because the C model ripper barely lifts up in comparison to the D model.

Don’t believe it comes with any of the hardware inside the machine. But a local mechanic said he could do that for me for $10k installed. He use to be the head hydraulic specialist for years at my local cat dealership.

 

[Nige]

Looking at it there is some differences between the C model ripper and the D model..........

Some, he says.
Just about every part you can think of is different between the two.
First thing I looked at was the mounting - "No Common Parts".
But if your ex-dealer guy is confident he can do the job, don't let fear stop you.

 

[ippielb]

Some, he says.
Just about every part you can think of is different between the two.
First thing I looked at was the mounting - "No Common Parts".
But if your ex-dealer guy is confident he can do the job, don't let fear stop you.

the shop that has it listed, had it to fit a 973C model as well. I was hesitant to believe it. But it’s still mounted to two pins in a similar orientation, the design has changed drastically yes but with them listing it to fit a C model it made me curious.

https://www.marketbook.ca/listings/construction-attachment/for-sale/82767135/cat-973d

 

[ippielb]

After some time spent on the phone. Dealership confirms it is not interchangeable between D and C models.

 

[Nige]

Well colour me surprised - not.
See 3 posts above, especially the bit about “no common parts”.......

 

[ippielb]

Well colour me surprised - not.
See 3 posts above, especially the bit about “no common parts”.......

Updated parts don’t have the same part number either, just because they’re not the same part doesn’t mean they won’t work. The rear frame sections could be the same from the C to the D model, but I’m not paying ten grand to find out.

 

[Nige]

My reply a few posts above did take into consideration updated part numbers and pretty well everything else I could think of. What finally convinced me it was a no-go (as regards being a pretty straightforward installation or not) was the fact that the mounting pins between the C & D installations were of different diameters and the geometry of the two linkages was different, plus a host of other more minor details like there being no control valve, etc, etc.

TBH I think you were wise to pass on it. Not saying it couldn’t be made to fit, but it would require more than a bit of “re-engineering”.

 

[ippielb]

Had more jobs line up during the winter but broke my finger really bad, 8 screws and a plate. Still unable to bend my finger very much.

trying to create revenue with purchasing these two tools...

12’ Rome breaking disk

And a 12’ PTO rock rake.


I bought the disk back in beginning of March but it was still frozen a foot deep in the dirt. So I’ll have to go get it, but hoping to be able to rent/hire myself with the breaking disk after I push the bush, break up roots I miss, and the sod.

Then after I’m done breaking the land, I have that rake to rake the rocks I bring out, and the roots as well. Hopefully to have the lane immediately available for cropping.

 

[leadfarmer]

What do you use to drag those?

 

[ippielb]

What do you use to drag those?

Have multiple tractors on the farm I can use. But more then likely I would rent it to the farmers I’m going to be clearing land for. Then they can decide what’s good for a final product. Day rate for the rental.

 

[ippielb]

 

[ippielb]

So I've done a big job with my machine, and i was having issues with the return to dig not functioning properly. In the mornings before i worked the machine hard the return to dig feature would work just fine, but it seems after i would work it hard, and then tilt the bucket down, and rake dirt forward or backwards the return to dig wouldn't function properly.

So for example, i had a soft spot, and wanted to fill in the hole with some dirt, so i get a bucket full of material and dump the material down before the hole and with the teeth i would drag it over top of the dole to deposit it in as i drove forward. Then i would go to try and return to dig so i could get my bucket flat to dig out another bucket. Well, kick it into the detent, and it would immediately cut out. Or go for a split second and then stop. Not in the desired spot where the sensor should kick it out.

But at the same time, if i took a bucket of material, and just carried it out and dumped it, the return to dig feature would work just fine.

I'm not sure if this has anything to give more incite. But i did notice that lowering the lift arms down, to lower my bucket to the ground has lost some of the accuracy. If i barely push forward on the joystick, it drops extremely fast. It feels like the valve isn't gradually opening, instead it is going from 10% open to 80% open in a very short span.