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Finding qualified help

FarmWrench

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Table Potato farmer
I now have a different perspective of the employment situation. My kid joins the construction industry tomorrow.

Spending the first night alone in a hotel.

A machine that even the crew contact doesn't know what it is awaiting.

It's a big change in direction for an honor roll student who was going into college to be a PA a year ago. $50k/year College via zoom just didn't present more than liberal indoctrination.
 

DMiller

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Cheap "old" Geezer
Two young kids just graduated Mo State tech at Linn Mo are working for Capital Quarries
The one at Owensville shows promise(young Lady) the one at Hermann (young man) not so hot
 

FarmWrench

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sitting here half deaf and mostly broken down, he ought to reconsider. i have not seen crippled up PA's.
Dad here don't hear worth a bit. "Ears and Eyes" have been taught for a long time on this farm.

PA also don't get to be a PA without years of school, debt and things falling into place. Figured out pretty quick that the system has a high attrition rate. Lots of nurses and even EMT's who "almost" made it all the way.

We're not sure if this is going to be more than a summer job. However when the EMT card isn't getting used for the summer job, and pay isn't the primary reason, I think the medical field lost some luster.
 

FarmWrench

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Been a while.

She loves it. She has run sweepers, skid steer, but loves grounding asphalt mills. Looks like she has work into November and is working on Union membership.

She will most likely hold off on her CDL until she gets old enough for a class A.
 

Zewnten

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I knew it would take some time to find a non-dealer mechanic job, so I tried one place for 2 months but the "fleet manager" couldn't diag a dead battery and always blamed the mechanics for his screw ups so I left after his tantrum, not directed at me but his favorite whipping bot.

Next place I tried out with was going ok but the owner was scared to fire the useless manager because the manager's dad would quit and he was the top operator/foreman. When the manager told me to weld the chain on a telehandler I gave my two weeks notice, owner freaked out and fired me. Called up the new shop that actually knows what they're doing and rolled my box a block up the street. Shop manager understands what we're dealing with and runs defense for us but expects us to get it done, (whatever it is that day). But the pay is fair and the extras are nice.

One new hire mechanic is already whining about quitting to work at a properly run shop and he's mid 50's so unfortunately not just guys my age arent willing to work. Luckily there are a couple mechanics that got their chance at this place and want to stick around.
 

FarmWrench

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Chaffee NY
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Doe tag availability ends October 1. Stopped into the town hall to get my Hunting license and the town clerk is the mom of a boy my daughter dated in highschool. Also wife of a guy I went to school, FFA mechanics competitions with. Her son was in school for heavy equipment operator/management. First year of COVID the campus powers left the mechanics/hands on part of the school to their own but the mask Nazis and mandatory vaccine people closed the hole in their control. Just to make sure compliance was complete monitors were hired.

He's running silage harvest, his own hay business and doing some land clearing but Mom was leaning on me for how my daughter got her job. His father did the dairy thing for himself, then others, town highway and now mobile mechanic for a massive tree service.

Anyone in Western NY who wants to take a look at this kid before he spends 15 years burning diesel for Cows and scrounging small jobs?
 

Coaldust

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Cargo Tanks, ULSD, RUG, Methanol, LPG
University is so bad right now. Paying a ridiculous price to sit in an overpriced dorm room and watch half-a$$ zoom lectures. I hear ya. Unless someone else is paying for it. But still, what a joke higher Ed has become. I’d sit it out a few years and see if it improves.
 

DMiller

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Improvement will be when it collapses under its own uselessness weight which is closing in. A great deal of what I consider Garbage Education BA Degree Designer Certificates for Housekeeping or Hospitality or even Advertising are already imploding. Would love to see the Legal Profession alma maters implode as have FAR TOO MANY Attorneys chasing ambulances or fees for setting in a office doing as little as reasonably achievable making the customer do the leg work.
 

emmett518

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I moved from Coos Bay to Portland in summer 79, lots of visits home and finally moved back in November 2011 after losing everything in the crash of 08. You are correct, and it's getting worse. Weather's wet but generally not too cold or hot and lots of programs and handouts, plenty of places to hide and camp, it is a drug and homeless haven. Police Chief of North Bend put out a message to the citizens that they're underfunded and understaffed and the drug driven crime is running wild, they haven't got a hope of stemming the tide. Especially since there's no jail beds for the ones they do pick up for the tenth time while awaiting trial. Oh, have you heard the latest, we have a heroin epidemic now, the police and other first responders are starting to carry Narcan because the overdoses are so frequent. Still beats hell out of the insanity in Portland, where they give you prison time for trying to save your own ass from an angry and violent mob.

Why do I think that the communists are behind the drug epidemic in order to destroy us from within?
 

emmett518

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The qualified truck driver and just finding drivers has another side to it, especially when it comes to OTR refrigerated freight. My boss just like many others constantly cry
about finding drivers and has complained to us in the shop {I don't know how many times} why drivers are so hard to find. DUH? My response-The driver shortage started
about 3 years ago as the percentage of unemployed dropped not helping the situation. Good drivers started picking up close to home jobs {Prevailing Wage} which really
shrank the pool and at 3.7 percent unemployed employers are raising wages to keep the drivers they have and stop them from jumping companies. Which causes inflation.
In the frozen/refrigerated trucking business you don't want to see employment percentage fall below 5%. Good times or bad just average employment figures of 5 to 6%
are what you want to see. With 3.7 percent your going to get the dregs from the bottom of the barrel for drivers. Next thing to rise is your insurance cost from the new hires
damaging your equipment which he has already seen and admitted to. JMHO. I'm sure this will bring a sour response. lol

Truck Shop

Pretty much sums it up. The guy I spoke of also tried as my Sis in Law has the garbage 'If you eat or dink this will pass and still can smoke' cures. Sis In Law in Co lost her license some time back, was involved in a SLIGHT fender bender, cop asked for her insurance card where as she got In her car he was close and could smell the pot smoke residual, asked her if she was a user, she stated "I smoke once in awhile in the car but never when driving", her license was surrendered and she has to take a Clean drug test to get it back. REFUSES to stop smoking the crap and is trying all the stupid faux cleans it up techniques, four times to the clinic and four times re-failed. Wife's friend's husband similar, even tried to get a CDL and failed the DOT screen after drank some concoction "Guaranteed" to get a pass.

If you are going to smoke dope, why on earth would you do it in public or in the car? Or why would you go outside if you reeked of the stuff?

As my old Industrial Arts teacher used to say, "Whaddaya stupid or something?"
 

emmett518

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sitting here half deaf and mostly broken down, he ought to reconsider. i have not seen crippled up PA's.
Improvement will be when it collapses under its own uselessness weight which is closing in. A great deal of what I consider Garbage Education BA Degree Designer Certificates for Housekeeping or Hospitality or even Advertising are already imploding. Would love to see the Legal Profession alma maters implode as have FAR TOO MANY Attorneys chasing ambulances or fees for setting in a office doing as little as reasonably achievable making the customer do the leg work.

As someone who went to a liberal arts college, I do value learning about history, Shakespeare, writing, math and philosophy.

But charging $80,000 a year makes it impossible to justify the cost. I think the answer is finding new ways to deliver education for far less money, and to teach marketable skills along with the liberal arts. Engineers who can't write, can't teach, and have no experience outside of the tech world are far less useful than someone with a broad education. Same with trades people. My ham friend who does solar engineering and maintenance can talk about welding, Plato, battery storage and politics, all in the same visit.

And finally, although my dad pushed me to get an education, I find that the trade skills that he taught me, along with my own on-the-job efforts were extremely valuable. It shocks me that so many kids can't even turn a screwdriver.
 

emmett518

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It scares the heck out of me that companies are turning huge, heavy trucks over to newbies who lack the 5 years of experience to really drive a truck safely. It makes me want to give all trucks a wide berth on the highway.
 

emmett518

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Improvement will be when it collapses under its own uselessness weight which is closing in. A great deal of what I consider Garbage Education BA Degree Designer Certificates for Housekeeping or Hospitality or even Advertising are already imploding. Would love to see the Legal Profession alma maters implode as have FAR TOO MANY Attorneys chasing ambulances or fees for setting in a office doing as little as reasonably achievable making the customer do the leg work.

The American Bar Association has been infiltrated by woke lefties, who are now pushing law schools to implement illegal woke ideas into every law school in the nation. This should be a major concern to anyone who wishes to protect the American system.
 
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