D6c cat loss of oil pressure

oldirt · Feb 10, 2018

so what have they decided to do now?

Steve.ahlgren85 · Feb 10, 2018

Haven't heard from them for two weeks now!!

Steve.ahlgren85 · Feb 10, 2018

They're not very good at letting me know what is happening. I guess that I am not very important!

DMiller · Feb 10, 2018

I would be face to face present at this point.

Steve.ahlgren85 · Feb 10, 2018

You are probably right. I was hoping that they would give me an update without me calling them first but,it looks like I will have to drive up there and talk to them personally!They were supposed to let me know what they found with the fuel pump after checking it.Oh well.

oldirt · Feb 10, 2018

really sorry you have to do this, but you are going to have to get up close and personal with them. bad thing is your tractor is most likely spread out all over that bay.

your money is just as green as the next guy. the other guys are just yelling at them every day.

JS300 · Feb 10, 2018

Unfortunately it seems this is the way most shops do business these days. I think they get on the quick easy jobs to turn cash and leave bigger jobs on back burner. Update calls seem pretty rare unless it’s to collect some $$$

51kw · Feb 10, 2018

Still trying to find someone qualified to check the pump.

Steve.ahlgren85 · Feb 10, 2018

51kw said:
Still trying to find someone qualified to check the pump.

I know you guys don't have much faith in the mechanics at the cat dealership but I don't have anyone else to turn to. I just have to trust them to get my machine back up and running again. If I could have had one of you guys to rebuild my machine, I definitely would have done that, but decisions have to be made and sometimes we go down the wrong path,taking the wrong road.I just hope that Ziegler caterpillar can get it figured out.

Tags · Feb 10, 2018

An unannounced "pop in" usually works best. I love seeing the surprised look on a service managers face....

I have followed this since the beginning, I really, really hope they get this thing worked out for you.

old-iron-habit · Feb 10, 2018

Talked to my friend whom now works out of a different dealership. He was in St. Cloud the other day stopping for parts while on a service call. He asked a couple of his buddies about your machine. They confirmed that it was a remanufactured engine that **** and was then rebuilt there at the dealer and then **** again. They were pretty tight lipped about it and either didn't know or were unwilling to say much about it. I agree that you should pop in and jack them up. Ask them to beg one of there retired mechanics to come in and get it fixed right by someone who can work without a computer.

oldirt · Feb 11, 2018

I wonder if this is how they force small operators to dump their old machinery. I would be really tired of this chinese fire drill about now.

DoyleX · Feb 11, 2018

Some of us on here have talked to the service manager about whats been tying up bay 4. He said "Not my problem"
Time to make it his big problem because "ziegler can and will fix anything made by caterpillar" Says my customer service rep.

Steve.ahlgren85 · Feb 11, 2018

I am going to find out this week just what is going on. Chris, service manager, says that they will figure it out, sooner or later! Hopefully sooner

Steve.ahlgren85 · Feb 13, 2018

So, checked out my machine today. It's pretty much dismantled. They checked the fuel pump to make sure it had the right barrels installed for that fuel pump, and they were correct.They think that the machine is not cooling correctly. They took the radiator out and found the cooling tubes on the bottom, about75% of them were plugged with what looked like to me, seeds from a tree,an olive tree,or seeds from some kind of plant.Next,they are sending it off to MPLS. to get it checked to see if it is still usable .They have the shop manager working on it. He said that he has worked on several 3306 engines before and would like to see this one out of bay#4 back to work again!He is quite puzzled by this machine. One other thing, I told him how the machine was laboring as I was going across the field, before I even put it under load. He is going to check the transmission filter.,might be plugged, causing engine to overheat.They did replace the water heat gauge, the original gauge, he said was not working when I first brought it in.

Hobbytime · Feb 13, 2018

just a question ..whose paying for all of this? is the dealer covering the engine cost and you all the trouble shooting and new repairs or parts that are needed or are they taking full responsibility for all costs to give you back a good working machine?

Steve.ahlgren85 · Feb 13, 2018

I am covering the costs of the first rebuild, they are covering the second time in the shop minus the other tests and service work, gaskets, miscellaneous parts, radiator send out for repair, filters,that will be my responsibility. I think I am going to have one of their mechanics come out when they deliver it out and have him here to make sure that everything is working properly. Maybe have him here for an afternoon, let him run it. I think it will be money well spent!

Welder Dave · Feb 14, 2018

They should send a mechanic on their dime after all the problems they've caused you.

jcb jeff · Feb 14, 2018

Im not familiar that much with the Cat engines but seeing you have had so much trouble and its just a thought would it not pay to get the builders to prove the engine on a dyno first.
This would prove the work carried out is reliable and gain true engine running data and hp so as its proven reliable before fitting back to the machine and returning to you.

DoyleX · Feb 14, 2018

They will find something other than their mistake to blame this overhaul on. The radiator coolant flows from top to bottom. The seeds would be on the top. WHO overhauls and test runs a engine without a working temp gauge before it leaves? A $80 gauge could have saved the lawnmower shop 20k. They might be preparing to put some blame on you as a overheat, take caution.

Correct barrels in the pump yes, where was the timing? Nozzle size? Fuel rate? Did both pins (flywheel and pump) slide in at the same time? This is something that shoulda been done before ANYTHING came apart and documented. Dose the timing retard as the fuel rate advances? Buddy you have a frankenstein (spacer plate on a pc block) engine and a guy that has worked on a few. Id like to know what part number pistons were used and how they compare cc wise and in the dish. It will change whats going on inside the combustion chamber when you bring the science of combustion together. Good Luck...

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