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Would You Haul it ??

muzy

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By the way hope them boards under the truck are secured. I know they will never go anyware, but the dot dude dosent care what I think. muzy
 

CatLowboyMan

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Hi, new here, and this is my first post.. Trucks are some of the WORST loads to chain down on a lowboy.. Not much to chain to, and often there is so much 'stuff' (side boxes, battery boxes, fuel tanks, air tanks, aero-skirting, ect..) hanging in the way that it is difficult to find places that you have room to chain and have room to operate the boomer.. looks fine to me -- depending on the type of chain and the weight of the off-road truck -- factors we cant tell in the pic..
 

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As has been said, 10 drivers, 10 different answers. I have read portions of this thread over time but started at the beginning today and read all the way thru. One thing that comes to mind on the Genie pics. On anything that is rubber tired I was taught to cross chain and have a pretty good angle to the tie down point. The purpose of this was to allow the machine to have some room to bounce without shock loading the chains if they were pulled straight down from the corners. (Actually, it wasn't explained to me that way, it was more like just do what I say and quit asking so many questions:D) That was many years ago. Fast forward to today. I always have enough securement to equal the weight of what I am hauling, ie 120,000 lbs = 12 chains and binders that have a WLL of 10,000 lbs each. That way I am covered to half the weight of the load I am hauling and within the rules. The securement is supposed to keep a load from moving while in transit. Once it starts to move, if moving under duress, the chains are worthless.
Only once have I ever had a load get loose on the trailer and take off. I was moving some M-48 Tanks from Port Orange,Tx to Red River Army Depot, circa '78. I had chained the tank with 4 cross chains on each end. Weight was 98,000, and these were WWII tanks, no brakes, going for scrap/storage, to Red River. Enroute,I did a Panic stop, and the next thing I knew, I was watching the Tank climb the front deck. Fortuanately, I was able to get off the brakes and the Tank rolled back into the well of the trailer and once it settled down, I eased to the side and put 7 cross chains on the back, and 2 on the front, and soft pedaled it the rest of the way to Red River. I don't recommend this form of education to anyone, the cost of underwear has become to costly.
All that aside, this is a good thread for different ideas and opinions.
 

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I don't recommend this form of education to anyone, the cost of underwear has become to costly.
All that aside, this is a good thread for different ideas and opinions.

That is what I had hoped for , A place to ask questions about securing loads with out fear or being Flamed or made fun of .

You not only told Us how you would tie a load down you also told us why ,Thanks that helps a bunch .
 

Tiny

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Another outfit is hauling beams from a job , What do think of the beams laid down ?
4 or 5 pieces was all he was putting on . I wondered if the beams hauled upright might work out better .
 

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rigandig

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Standing them up would make it difficult to keep them stable due to the different widths of the flanges seen in the picture. If the flanges were all the same dims, standing them up would be my preference. But from what I see, they made a good choice in laying them down and overlapping the flanges. Is just my opinion though.
 

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Tiny said:
with out fear​
Tiny, both ATCO and grandpa say they experience a combined sense of fear and terror, reading this thread... just from seeing your avatar... :lmao

Just kidding, of course... lol

That is what I had hoped for , A place to ask questions about securing loads with out fear or being Flamed or made fun of .

:thumbsup... for the above, Tiny... sure shows you have a lot of insight about how

a forum like this should work, and... how it shouldn't.


Good thread.



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rigandig said:
But from what I see, they made a good choice in laying them down and overlapping the flanges. Is just my opinion though.
Yeah, I tend to go along with rigandig, I think that's a good opinion.

That type of load is really awkward to secure properly, and we can't see the whole load, so can't make an informed judgment about how the fellow proceeded.

One thing I would do, in his situation at least, is to try and use a D ring, rather than hooking onto the top trailer flang... sure looks like the chain is pulling at an "unnatural" angle, to the hook.

There's a couple of other things I might be concerned about, too.

You don't happen to have a full picture, Tiny?



OCR
 

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Tiny, both ATCO and grandpa say they experience a combined sense of fear and terror, reading this thread... just from seeing your avatar...

Avatar.... both Turbo and Qball have seen him in person and say that avatar picture is the real picture of Tiny...
 

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Yeah, I tend to go along with rigandig, I think that's a good opinion.

That type of load is really awkward to secure properly, and we can't see the whole load, so can't make an informed judgment about how the fellow proceeded.

One thing I would do, in his situation at least, is to try and use a D ring, rather than hooking onto the top trailer flang... sure looks like the chain is pulling at an "unnatural" angle, to the hook.

There's a couple of other things I might be concerned about, too.

You don't happen to have a full picture, Tiny?



OCR

I looked and don't have any better pics , We are a sub contractor to this guys and that is their guy . I have worked with him before and he does his own thing .
 

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Ok Gentleman these pic are not mine and I am not involved in any way But what do you think?
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DOT just took all his money that the scrap yard was going to give him... then there is the tow bill...
Cause the Kansas DOT would have parked it, then made him either unload it, or haul it on a wrecker or trailer
 

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Ha Ha Ha, that looks impossible. Man never under estimate the determind. LOL. Thanx I know for a fact I will still be laughing when I wake up. muzy
 

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I have long marveled at the things done by amateurs hauling scrap. My long-held conviction is that things like that only work because the people are too dumb to know it won't. If someone convinced this man of all the reasons this won't work, it would immediately fall off.

Thanks for posting this.
 
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