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I'm going to sit down & have a good cry.

Willie B

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Last load of wood supply, I had plenty for the upcoming winter. It had been under cover more than a year. #1 son had a change of living situation. Four cord was enough, suddenly I need 14 cord. Both sons dug in a week ago Saturday. three 10 yard loads of wood Saturday, two loads (one less sons) Sunday. Monday we were besieged with mechanical problems. 1 chainsaw had mysterious chain/bar/sprocket incompatibility issues. Other saw; a Leprechaun must have snuck in & ground the chain to nothing. Nobody touched it, but it was over ground. Late day, I said even a dull chain will cut one more tree. I was wrong! Ended up felling it with a 30 year old saw we used to carry on a snowmobile.

This weekend, Saturday was eaten up with interruptions. Sunday, Seth cleaned the town spring, I was on my own.
I had two cord on the ground including three 20' long Oak logs biggest being 30" diameter. I marked them out to length, cut down to near the ground. Rolling them over was next step. As i reached with the backhoe, I got a face full of oil! A hose had ruptured.

It proved to be the extend-a-hoe coupling out of reach. At length I figured out I could add oil, Pin it in transport position, & drive it home. Seth came along. It was a gooey mess! Not a big job to remove the bucket & dipper assembly if one could see any components. It was a greasy, nasty mess!.

It is now apart. I'll repack the cylinder, replace the two hoses & put it back. Might get my wood next weekend.
 

NH575E

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That's why I like my switch on the wall. Our house plans had a fireplace. I had it drawn out and made more closet space.

Power goes out I fire up the diesel generator and sit back in comfort.
 

edgephoto

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I miss the warmth of a stove. My last house I burned coal. Loved it. We are in the process of designing and building a house on 15 acres we bought last year. Wood stove is part of the design. I will bur wood more for the toasty warmth than for the oil savings.

I feel your pain. There are just sometimes where you have to walk away and regroup. Good luck getting things fixed.
 

Willie B

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We broke ground in 1980. The latest super heat system was stored heat, electric. You got electricity to heat Magnusite 8 hours a day. Insulated cabinets were full of stone. they got hot overnight, fans blew heat out over the 24 hours. The system worked well if adequately sized.
Then there was the asbestos panic!
Projects were cancelled. Manufacturers either switched to non asbestos insulation, or dropped out of the US market. There was no logical reason to abandon the system, but the damage was done. Electric heat storage was tied to lung cancer.

My reasons were economic. First, I couldn't afford the heater units, Then, I couldn't get parts for the dirt cheap units I was taking out. Next thing, the power company raised the Kilowatt cost for stored heat.

Meanwhile, wood heat worked for us. Mrs. B has not yet been too warm. At 60, she never found a moment she wanted it less warm. With wood heat I never have a fire in the room I am in. Thus far, wood has been preferable to other fuels.

Buying wood doesn't feel logical. I own hundreds of cords of low value trees. Harvesting them improves the sale value of logs. Not every tree in a forest should live. Removing cull trees devotes soil & sun to more productive trees.
 

Willie B

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Brand new tears:
Today, the Case is down waiting for parts to arrive. Seth had a God forsaken derelict Jeep he hauled in. There are $200. in useful parts to salvage. I said "Not at home!" Mrs B would kill me if I let him drag that debris home. We can hide stuff at "the land"
I drove the John Deere 410C 3 miles to unload. The day wasn't done, I had stuff to do there. I knocked down 10 dead pines left standing after a major windstorm & moved some steel treasures. The sun goes down early there, so about 5:00 I headed for home. Going down the long hill toward Otter Creek I noticed smoke from the stack. Easy downhill, smoke was not normal. Climbing from the bridge it lacked power. As soon as I hit Route 7 It was WEAK. I made it 1/10 mile before it quit.
Seth & an extra son arrived with new filter. Swapped new fuel filter, bled the system, it had more power than it ever has. I made it 1/4 mile, it died!

Every effort makes it powerful for two minutes.

We towed it home, me starting it every few minutes, driving under its own power to keep the drivetrain lubricated. Eventually made it the three miles home.

Anybody got any theories? Thought the fuel gauge might be wrong, filled the tank, new fuel filter, bled the air.
It runs strong 1 or2 minutes, then dies. Plenty of engine oil, good pressure. It just behaves like it is running out of fuel despite a full tank, (was half at the onset). Today, after 2 hours use was the first symptom.
 

Willie B

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Does yours direct return from injectors to tank, or does it return to pump then to tank?
Not sure, it takes a bucket loader to remove the *%$#@! hood. It is made of 3/8" plate steel. I got two more old tractors with loaders before I'm out of resources.
 

sled dog

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OK. Both times I ran into this, the return hose was coming apart inside and stopping the flow. Too much back pressure in the pump, and they shut down. Replaced the hoses and never another hiccup.
 

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Willie B, I hear you on the junk vehicles. My sons think my property should be the Sanford & son garage!! The wife thinks NOT...the wife wins, unless they hide them, which she finds in the end, and they are soon gone.
 

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Anybody got any theories?

Slime/ algae growth in the tank. New filter, it runs until it sucks enough debris up to plug it. Then it sets while you change filter, debris falls back into tank, it starts runs- runs great- and dies again as it plugs back up.

Shine a light down in the tank and see if you see black / green things floating around. Mine would hang up in a "foot valve" that kept fuel primed on a detroit, but it could be in a banjo or other fitting that you are plugging up.

Bacteria killer and a drain and cleaning of the fuel tank.
 

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One OTHER possible, as is a Older Deere will have a Stanadyne pump, pull the return fitting on top of shut down cover, if packed with crap coming due for Injector Pump work.
 

Willie B

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My property here at home is two acres. Due to weird geography, 3/4 acres is dropped 10 feet lower than the house. A stone wall further obscures any unsightly stuff from the house. Only rarely does Mrs. B see it.
I bought a Jeep several years ago. Nothing of value, but a rebuilt engine. I did not immediately salvage the engine & dispose of the rest. She rallied on that Jeep! Griped to me endlessly, and complained to anybody polite enough to listen. She told the story of the Jeep ruining her life numerous times.

I gave in! I stripped the parts I wanted & disposed of the rest, I never mentioned it to her.

A year later, she was still telling the story of the derelict Jeep destroying her happiness. I pointed out it had been gone a year, she hadn't noticed.

How much suffering did you endure, if you didn't know it was gone for more than a year?
 

Willie B

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Slime/ algae growth in the tank. New filter, it runs until it sucks enough debris up to plug it. Then it sets while you change filter, debris falls back into tank, it starts runs- runs great- and dies again as it plugs back up.

Shine a light down in the tank and see if you see black / green things floating around. Mine would hang up in a "foot valve" that kept fuel primed on a detroit, but it could be in a banjo or other fitting that you are plugging up.

Bacteria killer and a drain and cleaning of the fuel tank.

I didn't have a chance to work on it today, not likely tomorrow. It occurs to me it ran well until a given moment. I've owned it a few months. We replaced the filter, bled it. It ran great briefly.
Something other than just a fouled filter. The old one poured out clean diesel until near empty, then black sludge. I'll look to the return line as sled dog suggests. I also wonder if the mechanical lift pump suddenly failed. My brain locks on to the ability to start, run powerfully for a minute, then gradually die.
 
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