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Sooooo... How's everyone's quarantine going?

DMiller

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Not the packs, the sliding piston does and they do seal for air pressure. The main seal in the common piston/cylinder is a Teflon ring with square cut expander o-ring. The individual packs do not have a individual piston. Thirty pounds air pressure is enough to solid engage/compress the pack so far with no audible leakage. And again the pack heights when checked were nominal.
 

John C.

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That looks the same as the transmissions in the Internationals. I was told the star looking plate that fit on the shaft and covers the holes in that flange was the modulator plate. It was supposed to slow down the fill rate in the piston assembly. I never ran a machine after rebuild where they did anything other than lurch real hard into forward or reverse. When I worked for the Harvester dealer, it seemed there were plenty of clutch failures like yours. Some people claimed it was shifting, other just wrote it off as inferior material used in the friction plates. Yours do appear to have been hot.
 

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Pretty Close actually to IH Payloader units. The smaller piston is a change, called an Accelerator Piston, pressure goes there initially then to the larger drum, the star plate allows for a controlled release/swap to/from Hi to Lo range in a direction where fluid can only exit so fast/and the pressurized side slows the drain rate. Allis did not initially have Decel Systems on their tractors, this one was a later model where that became a standard to stop slam shifts as often dropped the Bevel gear pinion. Is in the basic Operations guide to Decel prior to or as shift then come off the decel.
 

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Took my winter tires off today. Had a hell of a time getting the winter rims off. Might have to apply a bit of never seize to the hub center when I put them back on in the fall. Think I might have to paint my back bumper, she's starting to get a few bubbles. Anyway, what's a good lube for tailgate rubbers? I put some fluid film on them in the fall, and they seem worse than if I used nothing at all.
 

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I spent my Sunday quarantine, risking my life to get toilet parts. Of course, I couldn't get all the right stuff in the first trip, so I risked my life once again to get the rest of the right parts. I heard indiana jones music in the background as I entered the store.

And the amazing assortment of low flush, double flush, water saver supreme assemblies about blew my mind. I just wanted the old simple fill and flush assembly, and after enough looking I found them. I never knew the plumbing of toilets had gotten so complicated. I'm a poor enough plumber as it is, I don't need more complicated.

I did notice my replacement part has a 7 year warranty. On a $11 part. Are there people out there that keep the receipt for toilet parts for 7 years- in case it doesn't make it that long? Cause I'm living on the edge and just pitched it.

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I spent my Sunday quarantine, risking my life to get toilet parts. Of course, I couldn't get all the right stuff in the first trip, so I risked my life once again to get the rest of the right parts. I heard indiana jones music in the background as I entered the store.

And the amazing assortment of low flush, double flush, water saver supreme assemblies about blew my mind. I just wanted the old simple fill and flush assembly, and after enough looking I found them. I never knew the plumbing of toilets had gotten so complicated. I'm a poor enough plumber as it is, I don't need more complicated.

I did notice my replacement part has a 7 year warranty. On a $11 part. Are there people out there that keep the receipt for toilet parts for 7 years- in case it doesn't make it that long? Cause I'm living on the edge and just pitched it.

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should have paid the extra $15 bucks for the extended warranty
 

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Usually the rotary tail pig snorkler {the red flapper} takes a dump. {Pun intended}

I tried the flapper, and it didn't help. Either the ring that it seats on had a hairline or hard water wear issue, or the gasket at the bottom of the tank was gone. I'm leaning toward it being the gasket on the bottom of the tank, it was in pretty bad shape.

I figured by the time I got the tank off, I just as well replace it all.
 

kshansen

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That looks the same as the transmissions in the Internationals. I was told the star looking plate that fit on the shaft and covers the holes in that flange was the modulator plate. It was supposed to slow down the fill rate in the piston assembly. I never ran a machine after rebuild where they did anything other than lurch real hard into forward or reverse. When I worked for the Harvester dealer, it seemed there were plenty of clutch failures like yours. Some people claimed it was shifting, other just wrote it off as inferior material used in the friction plates. Yours do appear to have been hot.
Yes that bunch of parts look like they could have come out of a Hough 120 transmission! Did a few of them back in the day. Last I knew the special lifting tool for those packs was still hanging on the peg board in the shop we used to use for engine and transmission work. Looks like this one:
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I spent my Sunday quarantine, risking my life to get toilet parts. Of course, I couldn't get all the right stuff in the first trip, so I risked my life once again to get the rest of the right parts. I heard indiana jones music in the background as I entered the store.

And the amazing assortment of low flush, double flush, water saver supreme assemblies about blew my mind. I just wanted the old simple fill and flush assembly, and after enough looking I found them. I never knew the plumbing of toilets had gotten so complicated. I'm a poor enough plumber as it is, I don't need more complicated.

I did notice my replacement part has a 7 year warranty. On a $11 part. Are there people out there that keep the receipt for toilet parts for 7 years- in case it doesn't make it that long? Cause I'm living on the edge and just pitched it.

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I got a chuckle out of that Craneop as the only other trades I am worse at is electrical and HVAC.:rolleyes:

Used that same red flapper and assembly last time on my hall toilet when it took an internal dump.
 
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