• Thank you for visiting HeavyEquipmentForums.com! Our objective is to provide industry professionals a place to gather to exchange questions, answers and ideas. We welcome you to register using the "Register" icon at the top of the page. We'd appreciate any help you can offer in spreading the word of our new site. The more members that join, the bigger resource for all to enjoy. Thank you!

10 ton trailers

Tags

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 19, 2012
Messages
1,618
Location
Connecticut
I do understand the cost of a new 20 ton seems outrageous, as does the registration fees, as does the fact that Connecticut requires registration renewals of commercial vehicles in April when no contractor really has any cash flow, but that's a whole other issue.... If you can be patient keep checking CL or the Truck and Equipment Post there are some very clean low mileage 20 tonners that pop, you just need to get in the habit of checking every couple of days. Also if you buy used you get around paying the FET tax. I'm not trying to spend your money, just giving you things to consider since it is a considerable purchase.
 

monster76

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Messages
526
Location
Miami Fl
Occupation
Contractor
The weight of trailers varies, but the GVWR always includes the trailer's weight.

When I said that a 10 ton trailer weighs 6,000 pounds, that's an approximate. As you go up in capacity they have to add more metal so that's more weight.
1 10 ton trailer is 20,000 pounds, so if we subtract the guesstimated 6,000 pounds that leaves 14,000 for equipment.

(Note: This weight stuff is actually more complex because you have to consider axle capacities and how much weight the trailer off-loads onto the tow vehicle; usually 10%-ish for bumper pull and 20-25% for GN/5th-wheel)

You've got a 19,000 pound load to carry, plus the weight of the trailer, which of course is likely to be more than 6,000 pounds, but it's NOT likely to be less. That's 25,000 pounds or 12.5 tons.

If you got a 13 ton trailer you'd likely be right at the trailer's capacity, if not over.

If you got a 15 ton or 30,000 pound trailer, then subtracted 19,000 pounds that would leave 11,000. I don't know what it would weigh, but you would most likely have at least a ton, if not two, as excess capacity for a safety margin. That's assuming a weight of 7,000-9,000 pounds.


On my prior post I was kind of casual with the numbers because I wanted them to come out evenly and make the concept easy to see.


If I can rephrase a bit...

I think it's always wise to use your equipment BELOW it's maximum capacity, not right at the edge. Many people agree with that notion, although of course some don't.

I'm suggesting that you buy the capacity you NEED, with a little extra for a safety/wear margin, but that beyond that point it becomes wise to ask what the extra capacity you are paying for will do for you. For some folks in your situation it's smart to go to a 20T trailer. For others a 15T. For you...? That depends on what you need now and in the future, but it SOUNDS like you don't need a 20T.


I apologize if I have done a poor job of communicating what I was thinking.


You realize alot of trailers are rated for 10 ton capacity and when you look at thier specs the gvwr is often higher for example my eager beaver 20 ton has a gvw of 48,840 and the trailer comes in at around 8k which leaves me with 40k to play with.
 

CM1995

Administrator
Joined
Jan 21, 2007
Messages
13,377
Location
Alabama
Occupation
Running what I brung and taking what I win
I reckon pretty much everyone realizes that.

Not necessarily. There was another thread discussing the same topic - how manufacturers rate their trailers. Some rate their trailers as total GVW and some rate them at payload. One has to read the specs to determine the difference.

For example some 20 ton trailers are not rated to carry 20 tons, one has to subtract the weight of the trailer to achieve the payload. It's can get confusing for first time buyers.
 

planecrazzzy

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2012
Messages
190
Location
MN
Occupation
Operator , Cert Welder , Class "A" Truck Driver
plus.... you're all using "SHORT TON" figures @ 2,000

a long ton is 2,254 lbs....

that 254 adds up....
 

planecrazzzy

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2012
Messages
190
Location
MN
Occupation
Operator , Cert Welder , Class "A" Truck Driver
Oooops... I was off..... it "is" 2,240 , Thanks for catching that !

ok I was off 14 lbs,,, But the point is the same...

When your talking a few tons.... Rounding the numbers to Short ton is easier to figure in yer head...

But when you start stringing 20 of them... your not adding 4,800 lbs

Just a reminder to newbies...




Yair . . .



Never heard that number before . . . where does the 2240 pound ton fit in?

Cheers.
 
Top