cfherrman
Senior Member
1st gen SD at least can do everything with the cab on if you want to, the 08-10 you have to tilt the cab to pull the turbo.
-
Thank you for visiting HeavyEquipmentForums.com! Our objective is to provide industry professionals a place to gather to exchange questions, answers and ideas. We welcome you to register using the "Register" icon at the top of the page. We'd appreciate any help you can offer in spreading the word of our new site. The more members that join, the bigger resource for all to enjoy. Thank you!
Cost of new pickups
- Thread starter chidog
- Start date
1st gen SD at least can do everything with the cab on if you want to, the 08-10 you have to tilt the cab to pull the turbo.
mekanik
Senior Member
I used to feel sorry for the dealer mechanics that worked on the six litre Ford diesels. My previous job I had a fleet of Ford Super Duty trucks with diesel engines. The Ford shop would unbolt the cab and front fenders and rad support cross member then put the truck up on the hoist and put stands under the cab and rad cross member and then lower the truck back down to work on the engine.
I once sent them an E450 with a six litre that needed head gaskets replaced. That would have been a horrible job to do because the cab would have to stay in place.
I once sent them an E450 with a six litre that needed head gaskets replaced. That would have been a horrible job to do because the cab would have to stay in place.
cfherrman
Senior Member
It's too bad the 6.0 that we have now wasn't the 6.0 that came out in 2003
Welder Dave
Senior Member
At least they will survive a low speed hit. I got rear ended at a stop light by an idiot I think was on his phone. It really pi$$ed me off because I only had truck for 2 weeks. I'd guess it was about an 8 MPH hit. The bumper is way cheaper/lighter than older bumpers and is made of 3 sections. It was about $1200 to replace the bumper parts. There would have been a lot more damage if the truck had bumpers molded in with the body. The guy's credit card covered it but it was a little sketchy. The body shop forgot to contact him to get paid and I couldn't get it back until it was paid. I would have had to pay and hope to get reimbursed. Thankfully got him on the phone to get his card number and it went through.
DMiller
Senior Member
Not really Dave, should the crumple section collapse they cannot be straightened or a replacement Section welded in as are component part of base frame. Anything above a slow speed and the truck even looking OK is a total. Saw two of those a GM and Ford at local Body shop when getting my paint materials. They had bought them for Salvage cost to replace frames and resell, will still carry a salvage title when sold.
ianjoub
Senior Member
I started walking around the back of vehicles to look at my surroundings before backing up, old age and all. I have added 'wipe the camera' to my walk around list.
What does that mean? You had it bulletproofed?
cfherrman
Senior Member
There's a lot known about the engine now, some bad design, a lot of bad aftermarket parts, egr, Ford gold....etc
They are great engines now, but still picky
They are great engines now, but still picky
Of all the truck forums I am on, I have never heard, even on a Ford site, anyone saying that the 6.0 Diesel is a great engine. Not once. If you believe that, you need to read the lawsuit material between IH and FORD. It is is really interesting. Here is the short version. The 6.0 was a mess, as you stated from bad desgin, mostly due to FORD changes to the engine. The fact that most people don't realize, that there were only minimal changes between the warranty claims from 03 models to 07 models. Many think that later models were better, but that turned out not to be true. I could go on an on. I encourage anyone that finds this stuff interesting to look this up. Some people had better luck than others, but two companies don't spend a Billion dollars fighting each other over warranty claims over a "great engine, they just don't.
Welder Dave
Senior Member
I'm lucky I wasn't hit any harder. It was a pretty good jolt. The idiot was driving an older GM truck in ratty condition and wanted to buy my bumper that he just wrecked because his was bent up in worse condition. I was a little shocked he asked and even more so when he didn't even realize it's not even the same brand of truck. Judging by the condition of his truck I'd say hitting vehicles or other things wasn't a rare occurence for him. At first he wasn't sure if he wanted to go through his insurance or pay out of pocket. I'm sure someone told him he's stupid to go through insurance because he let me know 1st thing the next morning.
Acoals
Senior Member
A 6.0 that is built properly is a solid engine. Not as they came from the factory, but built by a guy who thoroughly understands them and doesn't feel bound by certain regulations.
I got rear ended at a light . The person that hit me said i was backing up .I got a bad lawyer never got anything for my totaled car. Most people dont realize when something happens your on your own there is nothing saying you will get anything. Anther time i payed to learned a lessen .
cfherrman
Senior Member
I've been around the 6.0, yes it's a great engine, there is lots of people that agree. It is not great out of the box unfortunately.
I'm glad I don't work on trucks. My son-in-law bought a 2007 Ford truck with that lousy 6.0. I told him he was making a huge mistake, but he bought it anyway. 6 months later he had the entire upper end torn off that engine..........and it sat like that for 2 years. It was sold to a scrapper, but I think he learned his lesson.
1693TA
Senior Member
Same around here but they are thinning. Fuel cost, rust, price of repairs, fad, etc. is catching up or running it's course.A lot of kids around here have "bullet proofed" 6.0's and drive around town with obnoxiously loud mufflers.
However they are still running
Birken Vogt
Charter Member
I too have heard a lot about bulletproofed 6.0s. However their time has passed because a 6.7 is so ridiculously powerful, who would ever want a 6.0 any more.
Now it is down to the big money guys who run 6.7s, and us dinosaurs who still hang on to our stock 7.3s. 6.4 not even worth a mention.
But I know one guy who bought a bone stock 6.0 work truck off somebody who used it to drive back and forth on a flat freeway every day. He started working it and it immediately lost power. Turned out the cat was plugged. They replaced that and AFAIK that stock 6 liter just pays the bills now. If it was to shell out tomorrow, it could go to the junkyard and still have made him money.
Now it is down to the big money guys who run 6.7s, and us dinosaurs who still hang on to our stock 7.3s. 6.4 not even worth a mention.
But I know one guy who bought a bone stock 6.0 work truck off somebody who used it to drive back and forth on a flat freeway every day. He started working it and it immediately lost power. Turned out the cat was plugged. They replaced that and AFAIK that stock 6 liter just pays the bills now. If it was to shell out tomorrow, it could go to the junkyard and still have made him money.
1693TA
Senior Member
I think that was mostly a Ford thing and the packaging to make it fit. A now deceased buddy was the shop foreman at a school bus garage with over a hundred busses and after the initial problems were addressed, (HPOP, FICM) they were good engines.
The documents also confirmed that the IH version of the engine was pretty good. Ford made changes due to the power upgrades of the other guys. then expected IH to stand behind the engine. The IH version didn't make the power that the Ford version did, but was a good, serviceable engine. I think your really drinking the Koolaide if you call the 6.0 a great engine. Acknowledging that you have to try and fix it first, then it runs...and becomes a "great engine". Obviously if it was great, you just drive it, you don't have to fix it first and the companies that brought it to market, don't spend a Billion dollars fighting over the cost to pay for warranty issues. The only engine that may challenge the 6.0 as the worst modern day (year 2000 and newer) diesel engine is the 6.4. Another absolute mess. Ford coming off the 7.3 which arguably one of the best diesel engines put in a pickup, kicked the can twice there after. Obviously Ford built their own after that, which have been good overall.