Unladen Wt of F9000 Dump Truck

[BrianGrenier]

Need help with the unladen weight of a F9000 Dump Truck:

In our state, farm tags are available for vehicles with a maximum unladen weight of 20,000 lbs.

This Ford GVCW is 44,800, the vin tag shows type/g.v.w. as U914, vin is U91Uvca6243.

One way to do this is to get a trip ticket so I can get to a scale, but there is no insurance on this rig.

Is there another way to determine the unladen weight?

 

[overworked]

When a cab and chassis are built, the body installer has to finish the title work, there should be a sticker behind the seat or on drivers door frame with said info like axle weights and a unladen weight.

 

[Shimmy1]

If that truck has a 3208 or Detroit, you might be around that 20,000 lbs. More than likely, however, most Fords I have seen of that vintage are around 23-25,000. If it has any longer than a 13' box, your chances are pretty slim.

 

[BrianGrenier]

When a cab and chassis are built, the body installer has to finish the title work, there should be a sticker behind the seat or on drivers door frame with said info like axle weights and a unladen weight.

So, like this one found on drivers door? Can you interpret GVW of U914?

 

[overworked]

No, it should be of a sticker type

 

[BrianGrenier]

Bed is approx. 15' x 3' x 7.5'; Cummins NTC 290, 290hp...it is an 87, I am looking through the manual, U914 shows the GVW as 44,800.

So, Shimmy1, slim chance of an unladen of under 20k?

Just take it to a scale?

 

[BrianGrenier]

No, it should be of a sticker type

Will look again...

 

[gwhammy]

Being a big block chances are you are around 22,000lbs. My 9400 international with a light 14 foot bed is 21600 with 80 gallons of fuel. I had a 96 fl112 with a really tinny wore out 13 foot bed and a m11,it would get down to 19000 real low on fuel.

 

[Steve Frazier]

For future reference if you need parts or other information, that's an L-9000, not F series. Also called a Ford Louisville which is where they were built. It's been a while since I've been in a 10 wheel dump, I can't remember the tare weight

 

[Shimmy1]

Bed is approx. 15' x 3' x 7.5'; Cummins NTC 290, 290hp...it is an 87, I am looking through the manual, U914 shows the GVW as 44,800.

So, Shimmy1, slim chance of an unladen of under 20k?

Just take it to a scale?

Very slim, basically impossible if it has a big block. I'll bet if that truck has a double frame, it'll weigh close to 25,000. Fords are heavy. I have a couple of International 2574's, 1988's, L10, 8LL, 14' boxes, one 100 gallon tank, they weigh in at 23,500.

 

[monster76]

My little single axle comes in at 16700 and a hair over 17 with full tanks

 

[Shimmy1]

I'm kind of curious about the listed GVW. I've always seen at least 34,000 lb rear suspension and a 12,000 lb front axle. Not sure what Ford used, maybe a Ford guy might shed some light.

 

[monster76]

Not sure I know my truck has a gvw of 34999

 

[Shimmy1]

Not sure I know my truck has a gvw of 34999

That makes sense to me. 23,000 rear, 12,000 front.

 

[mitch504]

I'm kind of curious about the listed GVW. I've always seen at least 34,000 lb rear suspension and a 12,000 lb front axle. Not sure what Ford used, maybe a Ford guy might shed some light.

34k rears and a 10,800 front axle.

I have a 1971 Chevy C90 12' tandem dump with those axles and a 6-71 (converted tractor). It's empty weight is just over 19,000. With an NTC and a 15' bed you will be over 20k.

I have never seen a tag with the tare weight of a completed truck, there are way to many variables. A trip to the scales, or bribe a DOT officer to stop by with the portables is the only way to know for sure.

 

[Shimmy1]

Didn't know they made a 10,800 front. That truck will be lighter than most I've seen, but I still don't think it will be under 20,000. BTW, all IH trucks since 1979 have a tag on the sun visor for the build weight when they roll off the assembly line. Most are illegible, and only remotely accurate on tractors, but useful just the same.

 

[mitch504]

Yeah, but not for the complete vehicle, IH doesn't build dump bodies.

 

[Shimmy1]

Yeah, but not for the complete vehicle, IH doesn't build dump bodies.

That's what I meant when I said it's remotely accurate for tractors only. Everything else is just chassis weight. But, you can get close. If the cab and chassis weighs 17,000 lbs, pretty sure if it has a 15' steel dump box on it it's going to be around 22-24,000.

 

[BrianGrenier]

For future reference if you need parts or other information, that's an L-9000, not F series. Also called a Ford Louisville which is where they were built. It's been a while since I've been in a 10 wheel dump, I can't remember the tare weight

That is really helpful; Thank you!

That got me busier looking into the VIN with the manual; this is a LT9000...There are F, L, LT LTS, N, C, CT, N, NT, NT diesel, B Series, and more:** It was made in Ontario (the 'C' code).

I have always referred to Ford Trucks as a FSomething, ever since my Dad came home with a new '64 3 on the tree F100; still in the family...

Thanks for all the help!

 

[Shimmy1]

I would say it has a different than original hood and/or grille, too. That looks like 70's vintage by the pic. I would think it should have square headlights and horizontal bars in the grille.