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To Paint it or Not????

mudober

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Hello all,
I have a 1968 J621 that i used to build my pond and fill in some draws. Now I am trying to sell it and was wondering what others have experienced with the outcome of repainting an old machine like this be it a dozer or whatever. I know it wont make it haul anymore dirt than it does now. So do you think it is worth the money to repaint it? Thanks for your input.
 

GroundWorks

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Personally, I'd stay away from anything that was given a quick paint job just to sell it. I've seen what paint can cover up (hide), I'd sooner look at the real deal. Scratches and wear marks happen, it's a part of the machine's life!
 

DPete

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Looks pretty straight I vote sandblast & paint, you realize painting is the easy part, the prep is where the work is. If you can do it yourself it will be worth it IMO.
 

stock

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We have moved on and now were lost....
Spraying her wouldn't do her justice as it would be just a lick and a promise. She will sell better as she is as anyone buying her won't be looking at the paint.....................
She is what I would term as an honest and original machine..........
 
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2stickbill

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I run from new paint jobs on old equipment.Found to many trying to cover up whats wrong with it.I feel better when I scratch an unpainted machine too.
 

millingman

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If you do paint, don't do it cheaply. Sandblasting her first would be a must. Otherwise it'd look like you were covering her problems. You may not get the money back you put into painting her properly.
 

sheepfoot

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Take lots of pic's around with a date and time before cleaning, then if you want, go for it. If paint matters to the buyer,they may pay more, offer as is with a paint option. Some machine's max out like they are and prep and paint will cost you time and money and lower your take. It's alot of work like said.
 

stock

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We have moved on and now were lost....
If paint matters to the buyer,they may pay more, offer as is with a paint option.

Dangerous road to embark on, your level of detail may differ greatly from the purchaser they may not want a car finish and not want to pay or on the other hand their expectation of finish may be high but not willing to pay for it..........................................................
 

John C.

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Put your money into fixing any leaking hydraulics and cracks. The biggest hit item to purchasers of those machines is the tires anyway.

Good Luck!
 

mudober

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Wow!!! Thanks for the great feedback guys. Really cool to here from people around the world. I have fixed the major problems and leaks and now the machine is much better than when i got it. I just had the seat redone so now you don't have to sit on a towel. I will now focus more on the mechanical side of things and no longer waste my time thinking about painting it. I plan on coming down on my asking price and i will let a new owner worry about painting it if they chose too. It would be sad to see it go to scrap like so many of these old dogs have. I hope I will find her a nice new home. new seat.jpg
 

Scrub Puller

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Yair . . . Man that old Jay looks straight . . . is she working in that first pic or was it all set up and posed (I dunno if I see heat haze coming out the stack or not) most times those old girls blew a bit of black stuff . . . if she was working then the old V8 is running pretty good.

And I'm with majority of the the other blokes, I certainly wouldn't paint it, just a pressure wash or steam clean and present her in all her glory. They were an honest old machine.

Just out of curiosity what would she be worth . . . or rather what would she sell for in the U.S.?

Cheers.
 

JDOFMEMI

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I don't know about Illinois, but here in Kalifornia, it is worth what it weighs times what scrap is selling for, it doesn't matter how well it runs. That would be about $10,000 to $11,000.

That is how it is here due to the combination of the CARB rules and the general lack of any work to use it on anyway. I hope the market for it is better there where you live. It is a shame to watch all of our older iron meet the scrappers torch.
 

dirtmonkey

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:IMO leave it like it is. I've seen too many one coat " overhauls " if you know what I mean. :badidea.
I prefer to see it like it is :my2c
 

mudober

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I am near Harmony, IL RNI. I work out of local 520. I will try and get an add posted on here soon so keep an eye out for it. That is a working picture of me stripping top soil so i could later place some clay fill in there to level up the draws for my new Ultralight landing strip.
 

Willis Bushogin

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i buy and sell lots of stuff/equipment/trucks/etc 90% of the time, they need painting and I get it at a good price. Depends on what it is, but most of the time I paint it and charge the paint price +?
As stated the paint job on a big machine like this, may over price the machine, where you can make a profit. Boy I would hate to know I had to blast and paint that monster myself. Im thinking $4000+ for sand sweeping, priming and painting
I would pressure wash it and let it go
GoodLuck
 
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