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Landclearer

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I think that is how it always goes, you get a job you really don't want then it always winds up being more than what they say. I would rather hit the buffer than the house:D that is one nice thing about having a stiff leg thumb because it only takes a minute to take it off and it sure is nice digging with no thumb.
 

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Sorry for not responding earlier. Lot's of rain and nothing pretty to see lol. Nothing like a good spring time picture but not lately.

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This was the very last dry dirt of 2015. It's been saturated back there ever since but wanted to share this if anybody has a track this works great. It's a TL150 track cut in half and used for a drag. It actually has those teeth on the under side that rake well. It's really heavy and is a lot to pull with a small engine. If you took both track halves and stacked them on top of each other it would be even more effective but would probably take an F150 to pull.
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Flyin' low and rollin' slow...
I hear you on the "nothing pretty to see" comment! Around here it's been a struggle just to get jobs done let alone make them look good too. Lots of ground water and wet materials. To paraphrase a sig by one of the guys over at LS..."If it looks like crap when I get there, it's gonna look like smooth crap when I'm leave."

I like the track drag! A few months ago we moved further out in the sticks, and I need to work on an arena for my wife when the ground permits. I just may try your idea out.
 

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FD I made the same type drag with a T250 track for prepping large areas to seed. The problem we had with it was the front edge would dig in, flip on it's side, eventually pulling a large C laid on it's side. We fabb'd some metal plates, attached chains to it and then pulled it with the 5 and T250 - did it behind both.

Have you had the same issue?
 

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FD I made the same type drag with a T250 track for prepping large areas to seed. The problem we had with it was the front edge would dig in, flip on it's side, eventually pulling a large C laid on it's side. We fabb'd some metal plates, attached chains to it and then pulled it with the 5 and T250 - did it behind both.

Have you had the same issue?


CM, I have great luck with the track drag. That's pretty cool you've done this. I can pull it around all day with glass of sweet tea in one hand. It's like a zen garden. The track is just cut in half perfectly and looks to be about 7' or 8'. You might have had it tied to the back pulling the front down. I tied the strap through the sprocket holes about 1/3 apart on the front half. Best thing about is that it contours to the terrain and you can scrub trees and such. Now doubling it up would be super effective. They are about 600 lbs for just one track.

Well, rather than trying to explain check it out here..

https://youtu.be/xTV69qGu_pM
 

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FD I made the same type drag with a T250 track for prepping large areas to seed. The problem we had with it was the front edge would dig in, flip on it's side, eventually pulling a large C laid on it's side. We fabb'd some metal plates, attached chains to it and then pulled it with the 5 and T250 - did it behind both.

Have you had the same issue?

Attachment points too far apart? Chain too long? Maybe the weight of the chain and plates are keeping the front too low? From FD's video, it looks like the front of the track is staying elevated.
 

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FD thanks for the video, I see where where our engineering experiment went awry.:tong

We drilled and bolted metal plates with U bolts to attach the chains to the top at the center of the track. It pulls from the center of the track instead of the front like your straps. Haven't given it much thought until I saw yours and haven't tried to use it since then.

We though the weight of the track itself would be enough to keep it level but it was not. Anyway, we had a week between jobs getting permitted and I wasn't going to send my guys home with the sun shining so we went to work on that experiment in addition to general service work. Now I know what to try next time.:D
 

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Fastdirt, congratulations on your business. It's great to see hard work pay off.
Having done some attempts at videos and pictures I appreciate the time and work that go into that also.
Even if the work has become routine for you, it's still impressive and I do hope you do keep posting pictures.
I might even be inspired to keep my Ford LTL 9000.
3406 c? 1989, 13 spd.
Creature comforts like ac and the radio aren't functioning, but truck has always ran great.
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FD thanks for the video, I see where where our engineering experiment went awry.:tong

We drilled and bolted metal plates with U bolts to attach the chains to the top at the center of the track. It pulls from the center of the track instead of the front like your straps. Haven't given it much thought until I saw yours and haven't tried to use it since then.

We though the weight of the track itself would be enough to keep it level but it was not. Anyway, we had a week between jobs getting permitted and I wasn't going to send my guys home with the sun shining so we went to work on that experiment in addition to general service work. Now I know what to try next time.:D


Oh, I love it.. "engineering". :D

I am going to invent a real pull drag one day soon. I have a vision of a four part drag made up of a blade like a box blade with a fold down assembly much like a root rake that goes over a regular dozer blade only I'll fabricate five or six shanks that take bobcat teeth. Then behind that maybe a skid steer track drag or similar. Then finally a heavy roller to help seal and compact. Mainly for motocross track maintenance, OHV trails, and general dirt trails and roads. It'd have to be pulled by a dozer. I go ride at these off road parks around here and the main trails haven't been graded in years understandably because it takes a very long time to re grade once you start cutting in. Just a thought and maybe one day I can make it happen. I love the results of pulling like a motor grader does and I'm a fan of back dragging too. It'd have to be a one pass deal. It's probably already been invented I'm sure. You could even scale and size them for four wheelers, UTV's, skid steers, dozers, etc. I've spent my entire life off roading for a hobby and I hope to do it till I'm gone. I have a track out back where I took that video and play around back there all the time changing it up. It's very enjoyable for me. I guess I pretty much spend my life in the dirt but I love it. Maybe I'll create this creation and offer my service to these places. Maybe an attachment like the motor grader skid steer attachment with fold teeth for hard pack and hyd. ripper style rear function that pulls a float. That way you could reverse and turn. :idea:idea

These pretty granite rocks came from the Mall of Georgia where they blasted for months.
I put this together quick and tried to stagger them in the most challenging way but need to make a few changes. It has since poured rain and is off limits till dryer days of course.
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Fastdirt, congratulations on your business. It's great to see hard work pay off.
Having done some attempts at videos and pictures I appreciate the time and work that go into that also.
Even if the work has become routine for you, it's still impressive and I do hope you do keep posting pictures.
I might even be inspired to keep my Ford LTL 9000.
3406 c? 1989, 13 spd.
Creature comforts like ac and the radio aren't functioning, but truck has always ran great.
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Man, I REALLY appreciate those comments. I am really fired up about 2016 and ready to make things happen. It does get routine sometimes but it's definitely more fun and challenging than routine. My biggest problem I've had since inception is not being able to keep up and keep my customers as happy as I want to. Heck, even keeping customers when you are so spread thin is a huge challenge that I have not fixed. My fault completely, but I know once I go in like that I'll have to give my life to it for a few years before I can take personal time. I hope to focus on that this year and do whatever it takes to overcome that.

Now, onto that LTL9000... I love those trucks and wish mine was an LTL but like you said it's always ran great. Your whole setup is great. Looks dead serious and ready to go. The hood and grille all look well taken care of the bud wheels are great also.

I've had my truck near five years and use it everyday and it has never failed me. Yes, videos and pictures are very time consuming. The youtube regular uploaders and such have to spend so much time. I tried it but didn't have the drive to continue.

A picture from yesterday. This is how I keep it fun. Had to dig several borrow pits and demo this gazebo. So I dug my pit right there and kept under cutting it. When my hole ran out of good dirt I just pushed the wooden top structure off to back side and then pulled the concrete down in the hole. I was hoping for a cave in but I started wasting time and might have come off like I was playing.

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Got everything demolished including all the decking, the entire 20x40 pool, a couple 40" stumps, etc. etc. Found a 2" gas line and a four cable power line to the garage. Shut the main gas meter off at the street and carried on. Owners said they cut the power off but I don't trust anybody and have one of those Cline pocket testers. It was dead. Will dig the new pool as soon as this rain stops. Got two loads of #3 stone ready for the floor and had to push both dump trucks out. We filled the entire hole in and compacted it so this rain wouldn't ruin the hole. Lot of extra work to do that but I think that will pay off.
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I sure am glad to see you posting again. I always enjoy your pics and descriptions.

Don't feel bad about having a hard time keeping your customers happy. I think if you sat and waited for one customer to call you and you were there within the hour they would still find something to complain about. It is pretty hard to find someone who will do the quality work you do.

Keep the pics coming!
 

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Man, I REALLY appreciate those comments. I am really fired up about 2016 and ready to make things happen. It does get routine sometimes but it's definitely more fun and challenging than routine. My biggest problem I've had since inception is not being able to keep up and keep my customers as happy as I want to. Heck, even keeping customers when you are so spread thin is a huge challenge that I have not fixed. My fault completely, but I know once I go in like that I'll have to give my life to it for a few years before I can take personal time. I hope to focus on that this year and do whatever it takes to overcome that.

For several years I have had the problem of not being able to keep up. I bought the 16G in 96 with the plan of doing terrace work.
Made it work, and then got known around and swamped. What makes it harder is terraces are in cropped fields that have crops on them a lot of the year.
Terraces fall at 3 tenths of a foot per hundred feet so there not rocket science, but to get that under full production mode is what I try for.
Have lost a lot of work, you can only work so much. When it got to where I couldn't catch up if I ran 24/7 is when I figured that out.
I've studied the problem, tried things, hoping to try gps instead of laser and maybe then help will be able to do the job, But the answer I get most often from successful people is raise my rates, work less, make more money. Saying no and raising rates is hard for me to do.

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Best of luck balancing work and personal time.
 

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Man, I REALLY appreciate those comments. I am really fired up about 2016 and ready to make things happen. It does get routine sometimes but it's definitely more fun and challenging than routine. My biggest problem I've had since inception is not being able to keep up and keep my customers as happy as I want to. Heck, even keeping customers when you are so spread thin is a huge challenge that I have not fixed. My fault completely, but I know once I go in like that I'll have to give my life to it for a few years before I can take personal time. I hope to focus on that this year and do whatever it takes to overcome that.

I've been going through the same thing for quite awhile. Even keeping up on calls for new work is tough most of the time. I'm blessed to have all of the potential work coming in and I'm not complaining, but I worry about my rep as I'm sure you do too. Like Zhkent mentioned, I tried to get things under control by raising my rates. A little at first (which helped for awhile) and then a little more, but then the snowball started again. Raised them substantially and it only took a couple of months for it to start all over again. I just keep putting one foot in front of the other and keep on truckin'.
 

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RG 12.jpgRG 12 #2.jpg Here is what we use to drag haul roads didn't know if this was something in a smaller version what you were talking about or not Fastdirt
 

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Well zhKent and JNB it's a good problem to have but I don't know if there is such a thing as balance. One of my best friends is running some of the highest profile jobs around like the new stadium, the old GM plant, and they have many other jobs like Clemson Univ. and have many coming in. They keep winning jobs and keep adding foremans, operators, many new machines, and they are still hiring desperately. Some days I think man I could get $25 an hour there.... In reality I guess everybody faces an unbalance in one way or another. Always a chase for something.

Just a bit of their work from recently
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I did get the F450 back after 8 months.
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Still learnin, that thing is super impressive. Love how it has a stinger style v blade that bites in first and then rows it back. Very cool.... and very big lol.

RC, updated the thread.
 

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Glad to see you back posting. The 450 is looking good, as all of yours usually do.
 
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