The issue of what is being asked goes to the heart of all this controversy. I asked the question a long time ago and no one has answered it even yet. Can someone troubleshoot the machine from the monitor panel? Is there a display that will inform a mechanic of what the problem is. Basically is the machine set up like a construction machine. I don't know of any manufacturer that will give access to engine performance controls. On the other hand I do know that Deere and Hitachi service manuals actually stated to not inform the customer of access to diagnostics menus. So would someone finally inform us of the facts?
I've been to some farms in this state that have better shop facilities than any dealer I've worked for.
I'm guessing - which isn't what you're really looking for, sorry. I think its really limited what you can get at the monitor in the equipment. That's why deere is selling the program and the software access for the 4k and 2k a year. If it was all in the monitor- you wouldn't need that. And actually what deere is providing isn't what the right to repair guys (both farmers and independent repair shops) are wanting.
I think the farmer/ independent repair guys are wanting mandated OBDII type diagnostic with access , to be able to force a regen, to pull up codes and to reset fuel air etc (full access to everything). Deere would prefer they can do nothing (remember its like a 767). I think its going to end up somewhere in the middle of those two, probably closer to what deere wants.
Deere doesn't want the gov't on them if everyone is "deleting" all the emmisions controls on their equipment. EPA's smoke police and CARB really don't want anyone modifying things either. Farmers really don't care to much about the smoke police- all they want is to storm through at planting time and harvest time with no breakdowns.
The dealers can't afford to have the army of trained techs that it takes to keep this stuff running, for a month in the spring and two months in the fall. So when a farmers broke down in a millions of dollars time sensitive operation- they've got to wait a week for the tech to show up. And this week might be the one dry week for the next two weeks, and instead of planting corn, they're waiting on the one tech to show up- and praying the parts they need are available. I would want to throw all the baling wire and duct tape at that problem that I could if I was farming.
I can see where both sides are coming from in this one, and I have no idea where its going to end up.