My cousin still runs around 4 46a configuration cats for development of subdivisions they have owned that stuff since grandpa and great uncle were in partners 50 years ago
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Question about purchasing heavy equipment
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My cousin still runs around 4 46a configuration cats for development of subdivisions they have owned that stuff since grandpa and great uncle were in partners 50 years ago
With unknowns, like coming regulations, things breaking on the machine (can happen no matter how good you check it out), the slippery economy, you can spend 30 or 40k on something tomorrow that will be worth next to nothing next month. So the less the original outlay the better, correct? Value in scrap metal would be $9200 today for a 40 ton pile of scrap steel. How much time and gas to turn something into scrap? So the value is less than scrap value. But paying 12 to 15k for an old almost 50 year junker lessens the impact. Its just being smart and common sense to me. "Trying to be cheap" an older retired guy with only a few eggs in the basket can only gamble so many of them.
Shimmy1
Senior Member
Not saying this is you by any stretch, but cheap asses with zero heavy equipment experience that think they should go buy some yellow iron instead of paying a professional to do work are the ones that suffer these fates.
So I'm trying to remember, I think all together I have over 20 years of heavy equipment experience, operating and mechanics.
Its not being a cheap __________ its being smart. Some people are proud and brag about how much they spend, some can't gamble like that.
If there is a major disaster all the so called professionals will be unavailable.
Here is an example.
Its not being a cheap __________ its being smart. Some people are proud and brag about how much they spend, some can't gamble like that.
If there is a major disaster all the so called professionals will be unavailable.
Here is an example.
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Short of having a crystal ball buying any equipment a gamble even new equipment is a risk new old in between it all breaks down I have more confidence in my equipment from the 90s than I do the stuff made 2 years ago
Prices are high right now will be till either the market crashes or the manufacturer of new equipment out paces demand the generation of machines being produced today is likely to be the best stuff turned out in a decade maybe a little more because they are removing egr and the electronic components are starting to be reliable and not field trial
I dont know of anyone that's ever bought equipment to do a job that said well if all else fails I can scrap it and get my money cause the only value it would have is about 70 percent of the scrap and never before have I seen small equipment particularly priced if it was functioning in a fashion
Prices are high right now will be till either the market crashes or the manufacturer of new equipment out paces demand the generation of machines being produced today is likely to be the best stuff turned out in a decade maybe a little more because they are removing egr and the electronic components are starting to be reliable and not field trial
I dont know of anyone that's ever bought equipment to do a job that said well if all else fails I can scrap it and get my money cause the only value it would have is about 70 percent of the scrap and never before have I seen small equipment particularly priced if it was functioning in a fashion
Shimmy1
Senior Member
This is why I run 95E tractors, an old 1150G dozer, and a ISX with a disabled EGR valve. The 2014 excavator that we bought new has had more issues than all our other equipment combined. My tractors are reliable, and I'd much rather put the $150k in my pocket instead of spending it on newer tractors.
Sberry
Senior Member
"Trying to be cheap" an older retired guy with only a few eggs in the basket can only gamble so many of them."
Why bother?
Why bother?
True with anything in life.
I guess the video above best explains it though.
John C.
Senior Member
What is your point in this conversation? The video explains nothing concerning old worn out equipment and points to nothing that you have said. If you have the experience that you claim, you would have answered your own questions before posting them here.
Video was an answer to questions from someone I did not reread the thread. I asked questions for more input I guess and to see what others have to say. A recent death of someone very close has clouded the mind I suppose.
HardRockNM
Well-Known Member
It depends on the particular machine and how hard it's been used. There are plenty of 60-year-old overshot muckers still in use, and 50-year-old machinery isn't unusual to see at a small mine. I know of a 1953 Gardner Denver piston compressor that was putting in great service at a gold mine last year. Fixed process equipment is another matter entirely - hitting the century mark isn't unheard of.
The real trick is to find old iron that hasn't been run hard for long, but hasn't sat long enough to develop issues from rodent damage and water intrusion.
Welder Dave
Senior Member
A lot depends on the operator. A good experienced operator could do more work on a 40 year old machine than some "rich" guy could do on a 5 year old machine.