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Newbie with some probable issues

Reylocs

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Well, I wasnt able to sleep so I am on here looking for guidance and help that I may be needing in the future. My Girlfriend and I are building a house and bought a used backhoe. We origionally were going to purchase a 98 Case 580 Super L that I know was Meticulously maintained for $23,000 with 18" 24" and 36" buckets, we passed and bought a JD 410C 4x4 Turbo. It was $15,000 Less. I guess this might be a "Get what you paid for" Experience.

Today was the first time I ran the machine for any length of time. I am a little concerned. I was digging three perc holes and on the third hole the boom cylinder seemed to run out of power. Also, when I push down on the stabilizers, One has much more power then the other. Also when we purchased the machine, I check the engine oil and it seemed fine, today, when I checked the oil it seemed to be a tiny bit lighter in color, my first thought was water in the oil. Today I am going to replace the oil and filter in the engine and see if there is any change, and how quick it happens.

As far as the boom and one stabilizer cylinder not having power, could it be the cylinders need rebuilt? How do I rule out its not the pump, just by the other cylinders having power? Do I put a gauge on the pump to see if it has the right pressure first?

Also the engine is smoking a good bit, anything I can do short of a rebuild kit.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

I know I have a bit of troubleshooting to do before I get some things straightened out but guidance is most helpful.

I am so glad for forums like these, I have been reading about problems others have had and those who lend their expertise. I belong to several astronomy groups for computer guided telescopes and lend my knowledge there.

Thanks for any advise

Shawn
 

Curbster

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A Stargazer you say? :)

Well, I really don't know much about the 410C or stargazing other than the fact that I have seen a few stars after knocking my noggin on various hard metal over the years but I'm sure there are many here who can provide information. I have never seen one stabilizer working better than the other if there were no apparent problems. Of course I also thought the 98 Case seemed like a pretty good deal! There is quite a bit of info on hyd. problems here: http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=141685

Maybe some help!
Dig We Must!:rolleyes:
 

Reylocs

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Thanks Curbster, Yesterday I was backfilling some perc holes and noticed this thing smokes like crazy. There is so much blowby that oil comes out the exaust pipe. Guess I will have to look into rebuilding in frame or look for another engine. I have made a bad purchase.:(
 

dirtdobber1

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Rey,

The smoke - is it blue or black? Blue is burning oil. Black is excessive fuel. Also, are you sure the oil coming out of the exhaust pipe is actually oil as opposed to soot. You know exhaust systems create moisture (water dripping from your tail pipe) and that moisture mixes with soot to create an oily looking substance.

Based on the price you paid for the machine, though, my comments may only be wishful thinking!
 
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