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zhkent

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Hi everyone!
I just bought an ex-county machine off of BigIron Auctions.
CAT0143HV1AL01163
Pretty low hours, around 4500. Called to see if oils needed changed up, they said it had been in shop last winter. Oils changed, drive chains changed, trans solenoids replaced, and some maintenance done in the front wheels.
So a couple questions.
Should the front wheel assist be used at all times? Is there a choice?
Any quirks I should know about on that machine?

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Thanks, Kent
 

Nige

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G..G..G..Granville.........!! Fetch your cloth.
First question: If you plan on doing your own maintenance do you at least have an Operation & Maintenance Manual for it.?
To download a pdf version from Cat go to - https://catpublications.com/
When the popup appears, click on Continue as Guest
Type SEBU7063 in the box and click the Search button. You should see the illustration below. (Paper & CD versions have S&H charges on top of the posted price)

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zhkent

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Yes, it comes with operation and maintenance manual.
Also get a service manual, so yay!
Haven't got the machine or manuals yet.
Bookmarked the link, thanks.
 

Welder Dave

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Curious why a county would sell a grader with only 4500 hours? Most I've seen have been around the 10,000 hour mark or more when replaced.
 

Cat 140M AWD

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Just curious did Bennet County have that grader? as far as the all wheel drive goes there’s a switch on the right side of the cab by the ignition switch that will turn your front wheel assist on there’s a lever on the left of the control rack you push it forward to make the front wheels pull more I generally don’t use AWD unless you need it.
 

zhkent

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Yes, Bennet County was the seller.
I will be using it on terraces. Digging is mostly with the "belt".
video of belt
When blading we keep moving dirt towards the back, wider is better!
Generally will be blading to move some more dirt over when cleaning up.
My plan is that this blade will be ran by my helper. He has ran the 613 and belt.
I won't be running it, and he is inexperienced, so thought some guidance would be a good thing.
 

zhkent

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Dave,
I would guess they sold it because of age?
It'll be 20 next year.
 

Welder Dave

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It might have been less headaches for them to keep it than get a new grader with all the electronic and DPF issues you could keep hearing about.
 

John C.

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That machine is configured for snow plowing. The post in the back is the rear mount for a wing and the front linkage is for a push blade. Operating time and age are pretty typical for snow machines. Salt and sitting for long periods of time take a toll on all the linkages. Government gets a big advantage over private buyers in that there are lots of programs the provide huge breaks in initial costs plus there are guaranteed buy backs and lots of competition from Deere and Volvo for the business. Around here, government graders get traded out just before they go out of warranty. That being the case, they are not a bargain buy when they hit the used machine markets.
 

zhkent

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Well John C. was right about the linkages being worn more than I would of expected. And man was the radiator filthy.
And there might be another problem. The first time we used the grader was a very soft waterway that had dried up some. Noticed that when I pushed the front assist power lever forward it gets noisy and seems to come from transmission. I tried it again on regular ground a different time. It makes noise from the transmission like a bearing is out. It gets worse when the power is turned up, and goes away when the power to the front is turned down. Without the front assist on things are pretty normal. Reverse 4th gear has just a bit of wine, but nothing I would of noticed if I wasn't listening for problems.
And they sent me the books for the newer serial number.
Other than that it's just like new lol!
 

Cmark

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The front wheel drive is hydrostatic so if you're taking oil samples the hydraulic is important. The FWD pump is driven by the transmission so this may be where the noise is coming from.
 

zhkent

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Planned to get serious when the weather goes south. Will check screens and filters and change hyd and trans oils. Need to tighten up lift cylinder sockets then also. There aren't any shims left, they are pretty loose, figure will have to weld on new stud-balls.
 

zhkent

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When I get it in I'll see if the inserts will do it!
 

zhkent

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A friend came by and we got to spend a little time on the grader.
The speed sensor has quit I think, the speedometer stays at 25 mph all the time.
So on the front assist I use manual mode. And I used the front assist in 2nd and 3rd, so when it's turned up it's really pulling. I showed my friend, turned up the power to the front, and he was pretty sure it was just pump noise.
It pulled the 613 out of a mud hole so yay!
 
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