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new 20 ton trailer

Discussion in 'Trailers' started by jmac, Nov 10, 2006.

  1. jmac

    jmac Senior Member

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    For the money you can't beat it. No problems at this point. Mine is very new so can't give you long term. Why don't you buy mine, make me an offer.
     
  2. jmac

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    It is the same old story, he has a bunch of guys working for him that don't have any money invested and treat his stuff badly. He never uses it, always an employee, they do use it everyday but it is hard to find people that give a damn about his stuff. I ran into the same problem, the difference between him and I is that I am at all of my job sites and do all the driving of everything and if for some reason I have a helper run, say the skid steer, I am watching him. My friend's company is just too big and he can't be there to watch how his guys run and teat his stuff. I worked with one of his guys one day, he was operating (If you want to call it that) his back hoe and was beating the crap out of it. He was beating it so bad that the linkage broke in one of the joysticks in about an hour and we had to fix it on site. Cost him about 3 hours of working time. I asked him whey he was so rough on the equipment and he said "well it is a POS anyways". I hope I never get to the point were I have to trust some else to run the stuff and not be there to watch. I had a guy last year work for me for one day because he was driving my GMC 6500 dump truck (sold it) and was running the box up so fast when he was dumping that I thought the box was going come off the truck. I let him go. He new better, just didn't care, not his money.
     
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  3. 20dub

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    very interested....good deal too...looking to get back into excavation and that would be a good start....decisions....:Banghead
     
  4. Nac

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    Anybody ever heard of Felling Trailers? I spoke to one of there sales rep and they will make me a custom trailer based on there FT-50-3 (25 Ton Triaxle) to be built like the European trailers I post on another tread, So it will have another 25,000lb axle on the front and the trailer will be mounted to it wit a turntable. Still working out the details.
     
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    Yes I have heard about them , they are in fact the way I understand it are a spin off of the towmaster trailer co. I guess a former owner or something that went his way and towmaster theres still a very good quality trailer.
     
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    If your going with a new wagon NAC look into making a attachement for the trailer so you can side a rolloff can on it so it doubles as a equipment mover and a rolloff can trailer.
     
  7. Countryboy

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    Interesting concept Ford. I like that idea.:yup
     
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    Most companies in the rolloff container truck business have a trailer that they can carry a extra can if they are hauling long distances or if they need two cans on a site the truck can do it in one trip.
     
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    Yeah, a guy here has roll-offs with a dolly trailer setup. Works well, he GVW's out at 85,000 with both, but light scrap runs to Seattle (165 miles) are way easy with the setup.
     
  10. kamerad47

    kamerad47 Well-Known Member

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    Nac it is almost impossible to back that kind of trailer up!!!
     
  11. 2004F550

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    Not that much different then a pup trailer for a roll off truck, just have an air actuated pin installed to keep the piviot pt straight for backing
     
  12. Jeff D.

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    Nac, they are very popular in my area. I notice alot of the local construction guys are using them, since their factory is in Mn.

    My understanding is they are a high quality trailer, well built, but their prices reflect that fact.

    I can't say anything about that arrangement you're alooking at though.

    Good Luck!!
     
  13. Nac

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    A nother question about trailers. When loading an excavstor say a 160 size machine i have seen it with the boom facing the truck and also facing the rear. Most trailer manufactors dont tell you how to load the trailer but I have seen one that say to load facing the truck. When the machine is in the transport position boom folding in and down where is the most wieght? rear? center? front?
     
  14. Squizzy246B

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    Nac, we go up the ramps boom forward and rotate over the deck and put the stick facing rearwards for transport. This is usually to get the weight (tracks) where you want it and have room to get the stick folded down. On most trucks it is the only way you have the space.
     
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    Here is what I found on Towmaster web site.
     

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    When I load my PC150 I go on the trailer with boom forward and when I get the machine close to dump truck I swing around and boom is facing backwards. This way I can get the boom tucked under and make sure my height is as low as possible. The weight should be forward, the truck should be carrying about 20%, I think on the tong. My truck is tandem axle.
     
  17. Nac

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    the tongue weight is usally 10-15% if you have the boom facing to the rear you have to pull th emachine almost all the way foward to keep the boom from sticking out and that I think would cause to much weight foward of the axles. I am not saying you are right or wrong I just dont know. I am asking because I need some info for odering a trailer to figure what size deck I need. For my machine it is 29' from rear of counterweight to the tip of the boom when folded in transport position. The trailer I am looking at has a 6' beaver 20' deck and 5' upper deck, I think I need a 22' main deck.
     
  18. jmac

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    Nac, I have never seen a excavator on a trailer forward. How would you get the boom down low enough with out to much weight lifting (counter weight) on the hitch of the truck instead of putting down force on the hitch. Most of the weight would be all on the axles of trailer or behind the axles instead of infront of axles so truck and trailer share weight together. I could be wrong, done that before, but just never seen it here. I am buying a 20 ton, 20' tag trailer with 5' beaver 102" wide. This is what I seen used by everyone here.
     
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    I agree with you that that is what I always see too. I have seen tagalongs load with the boom faing to the rear. Height wise if you fold you bucket in and fold you boom down the cab and the boom are the same height on my mschine.
     
  20. Tacodriver

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    I have found out the hard way that the tag along trailers are very unstable if you load the machine to far forward. It makes the trailer very tippy, the load is more stable directly over the axles. the further forward the more weight on the pintle hitch the less resistance to rolling. I was hauling a large manlift on our tag along, had it up to the front of the deck to minimize the over hang of the basket off the back. Going around a slightly off camber corner I looked in my mirror and seen the trailer completly unweight the inside springs and try to roll. Not very fun.