Looks Like I might be helping move a D10N!

[kshansen]

From the way the boss was talking the other day sounds like I have been "volunteered" to work on the dismantling for moving a D10N 3SK in the next few weeks. It's somewhere south of Pittsburgh Pa. and will be going to near Syracuse NY. Other than one day many years ago at Cat factory have I never seen one in person!

I've been told that the blade and ripper along with cab and ROPS need to come off and possibly the lift cylinders. . Was looking in SIS to see if there was some info on removing the cab to get an idea of what tools we might need. Did not see anything there other than torques for the ROPS. Not sure what if anything will be available to us at the current location. :beatsme

Off the top of my head this is what I was using as a starting point for tools: 16:1 torque multiplier(1/2 in-1 in out), assortment of 1 inch drive sockets to fit all the bolt I can find in parts breakdown, 3/4 inch socket set, 1/2 inch and 3/8 inch set, end wrenches(spanners) from 3/8 up to 2 inch, assortment of screw drives and pliers, hammers of various sizes, pry bars, and maybe some porta-power hyd.jacks. I think I have enough caps and block off plates to seal off hoses and valve bodies when lines are removed.

If anyone (Nige?) has done this lately or can suggest something to take with, we will be about 6 hours from home doing this work so would hope to have everything we might need. Also any idea on time to expect needed to do this job? Guessing we will be a 3-4 man crew including the boss who is a certified crane operator, hope they will have at least that for us:Banghead

Oh by the way they say it will run but not move, transmission problem!, we are contracting the trucking and they say should be no problem slipping the beam trailer under it then picking it up.

I do have some pictures but not where I am today, will post a couple on Monday.

 

[Mobiltech]

It would be a lot easier to just pull the tranny and torque out on the site than to do all that work. I think the trans comes out without pulling the ripper off.
Sorry I know that's no help. Just thought it was worth mentioning.
The rops has 12 -1 1/4 bolts.

 

[kshansen]

It would be a lot easier to just pull the tranny and torque out on the site than to do all that work. I think he trans comes out without pulling the ripper off.

The move is not because of the trans. problem, but in spite of it! The plant where it is now does not want to repair it and management people here think it is needed at the "new" location.

 

[John C.]

Most of your move depends on state laws and whether you are crossing state lines. All those machines I've seen moved into or out of Washington state had to have the track frames removed as well as all the implements and cab. What do you have to lift with and who is going to supply the rigging?

 

[kshansen]

Most of your move depends on state laws and whether you are crossing state lines. All those machines I've seen moved into or out of Washington state had to have the track frames removed as well as all the implements and cab. What do you have to lift with and who is going to supply the rigging?

I'm not sure of the name of the company doing the major part of the move, but was told they do have experience in moving them. Also have been told the track frames can stay on but the trunion balls for the arms have to come off to get the width legal for permit. From what I have been told this is a good sized quarry so I'm just assuming they have a crane capable of lifting anything big like the blade and arms.

 

[Cam85]

This is prob of no heal pro u but here in Australia u can move a d10n without dismantling it if u get the right permits.plan ur route stick to it and stick to ur hrs that u will b shifting u might wanna ask the question of the local constabulary.
4 rows of 4 and a quad dolly will take the weight if u can find a non power line intrusive route ( height is the killer ) with can b overcome with police escort.

However some of the d11 tractors I have prepped 4 transport I had to remove the ripper box blade and trunnions and the cab.

On the matter of the trannie problem are u sure it's a trannie problem get the gauges out and make a proper diangnosis know what ur dealing with b4 u get balls deep in it.

Sounds like management need,s a good flogging with a big stick to me will the new location have somewhere to launch operation put back together and fix it at the same time as well as part supply and the tools to it just mt 2 cence worth

 

[Ross]

Ah the last 11 I helped ship out,

1) Blade, Draft arms & Tag link off (No brain'er)
2) Ripper complete: Table, tool bar and cylinders.
3) lift cylinders off.
4) ROPS, Top Cab half & stacks (Height regs)

Side frames & tracks still on. All depends on the local and destination laws. FYI this was shipped out of BC across the USA border like that.

 

[FSERVICE]

kshanson don't forget something to get the blade off with will you have a service truck or just a regular pick up truck? if no service truck crane maybe a trackhoe close by? depending how long its been since its been apart might think torch with a rosebud also.... it don't matter how much you take with you, it never fails that you will forget something when you go that far away to work/tear down something.. as far as time goes??? that depends on your help (we all know your good) have they ever tore a d10 apart? have any experience? me & another mechanic & 2 helpers (both our service trucks) dismantled D11s, a few years ago ( coal mine in KY). we could have them loaded on trailers & ready to go in a day!!! (we got paid by the machine so there was incentive to do it fast) I would say 2 good days if you have never done it before.

 

[390eric]

Good luck!!! I am in the pittsburgh area, buy you a beer after you get everything loaded and on its way. Ha ha

 

[kshansen]

On the matter of the trannie problem are u sure it's a trannie problem get the gauges out and make a proper diangnosis know what ur dealing with b4 u get balls deep in it.

Sounds like management need,s a good flogging with a big stick to me will the new location have somewhere to launch operation put back together and fix it at the same time as well as part supply and the tools to it just mt 2 cence worth

I agree on the test before dismantle!Two hours with gauges and manual can save two weeks with wrenches. Second hand information I have got is that a outside contractor that has worked on it in the past is thinking it might be a pump problem.

As for the flogging part there are too many up the chain that could use that.

New location has at least one good mechanic, if they would let him do his job. Also they have a good size Cat dealer less than five miles away.

 

[BPMfore]

Must be a good deal for the company to go through with a move like this. Especially with the economics of things.

 

[kshansen]

Must be a good deal for the company to go through with a move like this. Especially with the economics of things.

Well it is already owned by the company so it's just being moved to a new location and if the problem is something relatively minor, like a pump or stuck control valve spool the moving will be the biggest cost.

PS: I think I have found it using Google Maps

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0143628,-79.5397928,33m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

 

[BPMfore]

Do you get to put it back together?

 

[overworked]

Ks, at least it's buy the scale, every truck driver weighing out will be telling you how to do it. Ha ha. I see Parker's team just put one together, ran a tap threw the trunion mounts then bolted them up with an adjustable wrench?

 

[kshansen]

Ks, at least it's buy the scale, every truck driver weighing out will be telling you how to do it. Ha ha. I see Parker's team just put one together, ran a tap threw the trunion mounts then bolted them up with an adjustable wrench?

Where's the problem with that? The torque for those bolts is only 840+/- 110 lb.ft.! So if using a 24 inch adjustable wrench they only have to pull in the neighborhood of 420 pounds on the handle, heck I could do that with my sore arm!

 

[Cam85]

Sounds like u have a good spot to put her back together be thankfully 4 that.

In regards to management I'm gunna keep my big mouth shut

 

[kshansen]

Do you get to put it back together?

With any luck my friend Norm will have that part of the fun to deal with! Might want to get a new cell phone number just to be sure, then again he knows where I live

 

[FSERVICE]

With any luck my friend Norm will have that part of the fun to deal with! Might want to get a new cell phone number just to be sure, then again he knows where I live

that means that you cant use the torch to just cut it apart!!!! I got involved setting up a old dragline that "some @!#$%&# mechanic" did this to & lost some important bolt that was no longer made, (had to have machine shop make them) he knew he wasn't traveling to put it all back so he didn't care. took sawzall to the cab to get it off!!! it took the welder over a day to get the parts sorted out & put back into a cab shape!!

 

[kshansen]

Well thought I give an update on the D10N project I was going to be working on. Did some looking on SIS and found out the sizes of all the major bolts. Found what size Code 61 split flanges all the hoses we thought would be disconnected and got together all the spare ones we had and ordered the ones we were short on. Same thing with the block off discs so we could keep them all nice and sealed and leak free. Ordered up the needed covers to use with the split flanges to seal off the every line so they would not leak or get dirt inside while being transported.

Just waiting for the take off date to get this job done!

Then today my boss comes out and says, job is a no-go! Seems we are being told by MSHA people that because the D10N is parked on land that is part of an underground mine we can not work on it with out getting 40 hours of underground mine training! On top of that even if we did get the training the next step would be they would want us to be instructed by a Cat dealer dozer mechanic in the proper procedure to dismantle it for shipping.

Nige, sound like safety germs gone crazy?

Before anyone asks, NO the dozer is not under ground or even near the active part of the mine.

 

[clintm]

Typical and if he's like most of the dealer mechanics you would have to tell him how to get out of the truck and how to crawl on the dozer and open the door.