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Komatsu PC60-7: Yet ANOTHER Hydraulic Line Failure Today

Welder Dave

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I think you have too many projects on the go at the same time and need to prioritize what's more important and also what you're capable of doing. It seems like you're making things harder for yourself than they need to be. Maybe a neighbor could help you to move the generator?
 

Mark A Weiss

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I haven't much choice on the projects. Have to get things done before ****.
The front stairs are collapsing from rot--that's another project. But I don't have the money for the wood to build new stairs.

I had a bunch of projects that I could have done over the summer, if I had a working machine. They aren't going to get done now. Too late to plant.

I've rigged up the generator to lift with chains. A neighbor said he could help me move it with his machine. Will see how things work out.


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Mark A Weiss

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Finally moved into place. Am finishing up the concrete work now.
Now I'm in debted to my neighbor! But he was fantastic, brought a JCB combination forklift and backhoe. We used the forklift to move the old slab out of the way and the backhoe to lift the chain spreader. Worked a treat!

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You have to careful because if you become a recluse or people think you are, they won't be there to help when you really need it.
 

Mark A Weiss

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You have to careful because if you become a recluse or people think you are, they won't be there to help when you really need it.
I was the first settler in this mountaintop 58 years ago. I moved up here to escape two things: floods and human stupidity. Better to live away from most people. Little did I know that others would eventually build on this desolate mountaintop. Now I have some neighbors.
The fellow that helped out owns the largest marina on the east coast. He helped me pull up my well pump and 220' of pipe in February. So I already owe him a debt. Most folks are too busy to socialize with their neighbors here. Also, everyone that built around me has at least 10X my net worth. I'm the "poor guy" in the neighborhood and most folks are class-minded and don't mix with poor folks.
 

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It sounds like the guy that helped you is a pretty decent person and won't figure you owe him. He was likely happy to help you and would do it again if required. There might be a time he needs some help or could use your services with your excavator. Good neighbors and friends don't keep a tally of how many times they've helped you. They just do it because it's the right thing to do.

I don't care much for the new neighbor to my property. Got along good with him in the beginning but it went South in a pretty short period. I got my dump truck stuck on my property and he had his 200 Hitachi excavator on the road clearing a fence line. I jokingly asked if I could hire him to pull me out. My track loader was 1/2 a mile away in another neighbors field. He did come over and pull me out. Then he said he's all for trading some work but would rather get some diesel. He said I could fill his tank. I'm looking at his excavator and said how much is that. Then he said not the whole tank, that's 300 litre's, how about half a tank. OK. It didn't dawn on me until I went to get the diesel and realized it's $1.20 litre. 150 litre's is close to $175.00! I took it out and pumped it into his excavator. Never really said anything but thanks for towing me out. After that I don't have much to do with him. $175.00 is more than he charges per hour. He's a very odd person and feels entitled or something. I'd rather have no neighbors than ones like him. He's had 4 or 5 dogs either hit by vehicles or never came home after roaming all over. At least one was shot by hunters, the mother to a bunch of puppies got backed over in his own yard. I'd like to report him to bylaw but am worried about how he'd retaliate. He already takes pictures and calls the police on people he thinks are speeding. The cops even said you can't tell how fast someone is going by just a picture. It's frustrating having a neighbor like this.
 

Mark A Weiss

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It sounds like the guy that helped you is a pretty decent person and won't figure you owe him. He was likely happy to help you and would do.............
Yes, he seems like a good person, though I've had little encounter with him. He became more friendly after I bought the excavator. Never talked to me before that.
He owns the marina at the lake at the bottom of the hill and we've started renting boats for our summer excursions. He always gives us a 50% discount because we're neighbors.
I wish I could say the same for all neighbors. In 2016, a developer bought tax foreclosed land across the road from us and built McMansions. The first couple that moved in called the cops on us the very first time I turned on my stereo since their arrival. This started becoming a regular thing until I had it out with the cop one afternoon (yes, it was 5pm when the new neighbors called in a "noise complaint".) Since they could do nothing, they sold the house in 2020 and another couple moved in. The new people seemed nice at first but the husband seemed to become a real jerk almost overnight. Not sure what happened to cause the change, but he became belligerent and now we just don't talk to eachother anymore.
The house next door, up the hill from me, the original owner died and eventually some Hispanics bought it, fixed it up, and unsuccessfully tried to sell it for a year. Then they gave up and moved in. 6-7 cars out front, 17 people in all, living in that tiny cottage, which was originally a vacation cottage that an old couple owned until the late 1960s while I was building my house. So far, they don't cause any problems, other than loud Mariachi music on holidays.
Meanwhile, the mechanic said all the lines are ready, but he's waiting on a banjo bolt.
I got my reupholstered seat back from Federal ($525) and no await the reassembly of the excavator.
Sorry to hear you have some flakey neighbors. I moved out to the woods 58 years ago to get away from such people, but they always have a way of catching up.
 

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If ****, the last person I'd infiltrate is someone that looks like they don't have much LOL ! Thats why I built a pole barn house.
 

Mark A Weiss

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I guess it's a blessing that my house looks like it ought to be condemned (that's what a neighbor said in 1992). I'm the last of the hillbillies that lived on this mountain. My other neighbor from Maine went back there when the taxes started to rise rapidly in 1980.
 

Mark A Weiss

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Well it's been since June 19th that I asked my diesel mechanic to repair the hydraulic line failure. I think it was late July when he finally came over and looked at it. It was early August when I borrowed $2500 from my wife's 401K to cover the cost of the the lines and paid the deposit.
Week after week went by and the standard response was "waiting on fittings". Finally in early October, I learned that all the lines were done and he just needed to get out here. I had advised him in August that I'm going back into the hospital for surgery in last week of Oct and to please get it done well in advance of that.
October comes and goes. My surgery gets postponed. Now it's November and I mentioned to him that my wife is asking what happened to her $2500 and that we've missed so many weeks where he didn't show up. I've texted him at least weekly for updates, and more recently twice weekly as winter is coming and I need to finish up a few things before it snows. Plus my machine is still in pieces.
Now he's accusing me of accusing him of stealing my money. Am I being too impatient? Is more than 4 months normal turnaround time for mechanics to replace hydraulic lines?
I'm sorry, but I can't help but to feel I'm getting the runaround.
 

Welder Dave

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Yes you're getting the runaround and you're being more than reasonable. He knows he's dragging his feet simply by the fact he brought up the stealing of his money. Most mechanics get paid when ghe job is finished. They may take a deposit but never the full amount. Paid in advance they have no incentive to finish the job. Tell him he has 2 weeks to finish as you've been more than patient.
 

Mark A Weiss

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Thank you for the sanity check! I'm not familiar with the industry and wasn't sure if this was typical or not.
The guy's had one excuse after another. The $2500 I paid was for all the hydraulic hoses. I'll owe another $1000 when he completes the work.
I'm trying to be fair and give him the benefit of a doubt, but my last inquiry seems to have triggered a snide response. He said he'll bring over the hoses if that makes me feel better. I got the sense that he'd leave me in a lurch. I've begun shopping around for another mechanic. He's a one man operation, so perhaps he has bit off more than he can handle in terms of work, but the few times I've chatted with him, he seemed like a decent person with a good work ethic. But there's only so long I can wait for my machine to be fixed!
 

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That's a lot of money for hoses but if he has all of them, there's no reason he can't finish the job and install them. I have a funny feeling he's using your $2500 to fund another job and is a little cash strapped and/or working on a higher paying job. Most people wouldn't pay in advance that amount of money. You did so he should get on with the job. Hopefully he took pics. or something to know where all the hoses go. That's another possible reason he's stalling your job. Take him to task to finish it! Don't have to be mean (at first) but just tell him you gave $2500 in good faith and now that he has all the hoses he needs to install them. You've been more than patient.
 

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I would tread carefully if I were you. You need this guy to finish the job, he likely doesn't need you. You aren't likely to have much luck finding another guy to take on a job that somebody else tore apart, that is a mechanic's nightmare. Any guy that is any good is busy enough and does need that kind of work at all.
A $3500 repair might seem like a lot of money to you, but in the heavy equipment world that is actually pretty minor.
It doesn't appear that you have the money to get smart with the guy. If he shrugs and drops the hoses off you are going to be in a pretty big bind, and it will likely cost you more, and take longer than waiting this guy out.
It's real easy to sit behind a screen name and dispense advice about how you ought to give ultimatums and such, be careful.

I am not saying the guy is in the right, just pointing out that you may not have what it takes to play hardball.

Prudence is the better part of valor.
 

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Thank you for the sanity check! I'm not familiar with the industry and wasn't sure if this was typical or not.
The guy's had one excuse after another. The $2500 I paid was for all the hydraulic hoses. I'll owe another $1000 when he completes the work.
I'm trying to be fair and give him the benefit of a doubt, but my last inquiry seems to have triggered a snide response. He said he'll bring over the hoses if that makes me feel better. I got the sense that he'd leave me in a lurch. I've begun shopping around for another mechanic. He's a one man operation, so perhaps he has bit off more than he can handle in terms of work, but the few times I've chatted with him, he seemed like a decent person with a good work ethic. But there's only so long I can wait for my machine to be fixed!
If the 2500 is for hoses and you're only paying 1000 for having the cab pulled and all the associated labor that's pretty cheap. Not saying it should take this long but maybe he has other bigger paying jobs and yours is on the back burner. I'm rebuilding a motor for a customer but I made it clear it'll take a while since it's not my main source of income and I have other steady paying customers who need repairs first.
 

Mark A Weiss

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Thank you all for the various perspectives. The one that I've been thinking about is Acoals' comments. I had that concern as soon as the guy mentioned "dropping off the hoses if it makes me feel better". I did e-mail another mechanic, but have yet to hear back.
I did notice when I did some checking to see if there were reviews (found none), his Facebook page, second to last post is pictures of my machine and a short synopsis. There were comments from others like "good luck figuring out where all the lines go" to which he responded "I've tagged them all". So I commented that I "can't wait to get my machine back up and running". Within hours, he texted me back to the effect that it will take him two days to finish. One day next week and one day the week following.
If he misses those targets, I'm really not sure what to do next. No one wants their reputation tarnished, but if he leaves me high and dry, what else can I do short of hiring an attorney?
 

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Hi Mark
Sad to hear the problems you have had. I had a PC60-5 for a time bought 2nd hand but luck of the draw never had a problem with it. It went on to 2 contractors & they also had a reasonable run. With pilot lines going I wonder if they were the wrong pressure lines. Also your waiting times for parts are bad. In NZ we can get any parts/hoses easy within a day & theres plenty of mobile operators. Just wondering if a hiab truck to lift that generator as many are rated at approx 8 tonne with long reach… just a thought.
 
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