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DMiller

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$10K was pretty much a bargain Tractor, even if was a out dated Ford needing tires, should last your type service until you no longer need it. Will likely only manage 315s on front.
 

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Manbasket work is one of those area's that the regs are kind of vague, "no safer way" etc. We needed the basket to put the men on the top of the tanks for bag houses and the ladders. Is a self propelled manlift a "safer" way to get up there? I don't think its any "safer", its just different.

We had the cranes there, and the basket was just a pickup truck away, so we did manbasket work. You could make the case that building a scaffold to the top of the tanks is just as safe also:).

I'll run basket on a multipart, if we have a two part in and are going back and forth, but I'm not going to throw stones at how someone else wants to do it. If running ball, I like to tie the guys off on a cable and shackle to above the becket, but you can't do that on a block, so then they just tie off to the basket.

I gave $10,000 for the truck. I would have really liked to spend a little less, but I couldn't really find what I wanted, and if I did, they were $25,000- 38,000, and I'm just not spending that much $. So, not a super great deal, but I'm happy. I thought it was priced right for what it was and what it needs to fix it.

Its odometer says like 580,000 some miles, and I think that's legit. Its a really tight truck and runs really well. With the 4.33 rears and the short 22.5's on it- it runs real nice at about 57 mph, its no speed machine. It has enough wheelbase, heavy front, and 3406e, which I think should be a good engine. I like the low geared - it should creep around jobsites real well. I think the a/c was even trying to work a little- might just need a charge.

The jakes have something up with them, they come on, but they flicker on and off- I'm wondering if their solenoids are bad- that or the floormat is kind of shoved up around the throttle pedal, and it could be just pushing enough on the the pedal to make them go on and off.

New drives (probably go to 11r225 open lug) and either 315 or 385/425 float fronts. I think I'll test fit the floats (I've got a set of rims and tires around) and see what it does to turning radius.

I'm going back and forth between big flatbed and custom rack just for the weight. I think I can get the weight if I have just a rack on with its current configuration, depending on what the truck weighs. To do the flatbed - I'll add 5' of frame and a rear lift axle to get some more bridge. I need to first run the truck over the scale, and see where its at empty, and go from there. But to do that, I've first got to get it home.

I do the same tie off with a ball. The single sheave block i run has a solid lug for 3 parting,which i use for the safety strap.
 

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Mounted up a 385 I had around,on the shallow offset steel rims I took off the mack. 385's fit easy, I think 425's will also clear. I think I'll just mount them on the steel rims I have left over from re-doing the mack's steering, I'll save up for aluminums.

Got started stripping off stuff, 5th wheel plate is off, toolbox and wet kit is next. Flatbed is coming home friday, and I hope a rear lift axle and some extra frame rail too. Weighed it this week, 20,800 empty. 12,500 on the front. Going to go full flatbed and another axle behind the drives. Shooting for 25' bridge. Should get me 63,500 gross.

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Irrigation pump box at the golf course. Getting buried under 6' of dirt or so. I'm going to bet its going to be a super pain to get at it when the course is finished, to change out either a pump or a motor when they go bad, but nobody thinks about that when they are building the course.

That and I'd like a private word with the engineers that think 6 point pick lugs are the way to go on boxes. Its a pain.

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I would consider saving the Wet Kit, plumb to the rear as can use that for OTHER applications unless just need the weight off.
 

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We had to offload the box first, because the hole wasn't ready, they broke rock all weekend, and weren't ready monday when the box got there. They weren't ready tuesday either, they called and said 2-3:00 tuesday afternoon, I said I wasn't starting on it that late in the day- good thing too, because they weren't ready yet on wed. morning either.

Transferred it over to the pete and rollback trailer to go down by the pond. First fit didn't quite work, seems the drawings didn't show the extra c channel iron on the walls of the box, and the hole in the rock was too shallow by 5". Back out of the hole and waited while they broke some more rock.20190703_094532.jpg

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After they got the hole enlarged, I put it back down in there and it was 2" too high, they decided they could "push" it down into the rock, and I knew that wasn't going to work, they ended up raising one of the valves.

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That is stupid to put it in the ground. I've worked on a few golf courses and the irrigation system requires constant maintenance and repairs. Most have a roomy pump house with easy access to everything. Lots of electronics for computer controlled systems too. Being in that box wouldn't make repairs or maintenance easy either. Would almost have to pull the whole thing out if a pump or motor needed service. Don't know how big the pump(s) are but 50 HP+ isn't uncommon.
 

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That is stupid to put it in the ground. I've worked on a few golf courses and the irrigation system requires constant maintenance and repairs. Most have a roomy pump house with easy access to everything. Lots of electronics for computer controlled systems too. Being in that box wouldn't make repairs or maintenance easy either. Would almost have to pull the whole thing out if a pump or motor needed service. Don't know how big the pump(s) are but 50 HP+ isn't uncommon.

Have to love Golf Courses!! Irrigations supply?

Oh you guys are smarter than the golf course designers, they dont' want to see ugly things like pumps and motors, so lets hide them in the ground. There are three access trunks/ hatches going into the tops of the tank, that's to drop the irrigation motors and pumps into it when they go bad. How exactly they are getting equipment over there to drop the motors and pumps in the hole- no one knows the answer to that one yet.

I did see some picking eyes welded into the roof of the box, so you could hand over hand the motor or pump to the access trunk. They at least thought that far, but as near as I can tell, there isn't going to be anything bigger than a cart path, and it doesn't go close to this pump. There's also a transformer back there, so I don't know how the power company is going to get at it either.
 

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Golf course, cannot be 'Unsightly' ever the pretty presentation of grounds even as all the machinery still has to function!
 

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I'm guessing the golf course thinks they will be exempt from confined space regulations?

Oh my, those are dirty words.

I doubt they even gave it a second thought. I installed a separate system at this course a couple years ago, I think it is buried also, we haven't had to work on it yet. I replaced a different pump at their other course, I had to rent a tracked skidloader, a bunch of plywood, and hung a chain fall from my forklift pole- on the forks of the tracked skidloader. It was a ball of fun. I let the groundskeeper crew place my plywood.
 

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Got to go set trusses yesterday. I think they had quite a party on the 4th, because the volunteer barn crew was suffering really hard on friday morning.

Waited for a thunderstorm before leaving shop, got out there and it was slow. It clouded up in the afternoon and we went through a couple rain showers, then it started to get ugly looking. I had them just cut some short boards to throw up the last 4 trusses.

I no more than got the boom in the rest to go home, and the lightning moved in, really close. It's nice to get done just in time.

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Tipovers on the road don't just happen to the boom trucks, they can get the truck cranes too. This one was down in arkansas. Looks like he was all loaded up with the counterweight.

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I take it that machine did not tip square over or with the boom up otherwise the boom would not be down
 

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I take it that machine did not tip square over or with the boom up otherwise the boom would not be down
If he is roading that with all 3 slabs on the back...

The listing says he swerved to avoid a car and laid it on its side in the ditch. The bent hyd cylinders on the slabs tells me he was roading it with all the slabs on the back.
 
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