How do I get this wheel off ?

[Joe H]

Old storage trailer, probably 10 years without moving but it's got to take a 1000 mile trip so needs some tires.

Got the LR outer off and inner says no way.

Gave it a drink of secret sauce and quit for the day.

Joe H

 

[djhutt]

Gotta pull the nuts off. Need the square socket.

 

[uptight excavating]

Budd wheels. Gotta love them. NOT! We have a special impact socket for those as do tire shops.

 

[Steve Frazier]

Those "wheel studs" are actually lug nuts over another wheel stud and have to be removed. You'll need the socket to fit them.

 

[Truck Shop]

Nothing wrong with stud pilot. left hand thread, if stuck on hub use a tire bar through hand
holds against drum to loosen or leave thimble nuts loose and remove jack and roll trailer
forward and back to loosen.

 

[terex herder]

Also knows as stud piloted. Have LH on road side and RH threads on curb side.

 

[Truck Shop]

BTW--that's a Propar/Fruehauf axle just for info.

 

[terex herder]

One good thing about Budds, no need for a jack to remove outer tire. Just pull inner up on a 2 x 6, remove outer nuts, and pull outer tire off.

 

[Joe H]

I need a square socket to take those studs out ? If they're as tight as the nuts were I can see where that end just twists off.

Socket available where, and what's it called ? Guess call the tire shop in the morning might be my best option as this point. Rolling the trailer isn't going to happen, I have no way to move it. Brakes are an unknown too, although plenty of lining I can see.

Maybe the elves will come tonight and sort it out for me. Maybe not, can't depend on them, only the gremlins show up.

Joe H

 

[Mike_27]

I need a square socket to take those studs out ? If they're as tight as the nuts were I can see where that end just twists off.

Socket available where, and what's it called ? Guess call the tire shop in the morning might be my best option as this point. Rolling the trailer isn't going to happen, I have no way to move it. Brakes are an unknown too, although plenty of lining I can see.

Maybe the elves will come tonight and sort it out for me. Maybe not, can't depend on them, only the gremlins show up.

Joe H

It has been a while since I've used it, but i think this is the socket I have;

https://www.amazon.com/OTC-1949A-Socket-American-Trucks/dp/B000F5LIK6

 

[Tones]

I have seen a socket that cam in the tool boxes, nut socket one end and a square in the other and holes for a cheater bar. spose they are like rocking horse shyt now.

 

[Mike_27]

I have seen a socket that cam in the tool boxes, nut socket one end and a square in the other and holes for a cheater bar. spose they are like rocking horse shyt now.

Double End Truck Wrenches – Ken-Tool

www.kentool.com

 

[Old Doug]

You can change the tire without removing the wheel.

 

[eastroad]

13/16” square socket should be readily available on Amazon or ebay. Tire guy should have one on his truck if you hire the job out.
I like the idea of popping the tire off and mounting a new one without removing the rim from the truck, but I have never tried that on an inside dual. Done it a few times on a front wheel. If you can get the wheel off, that would be seem to be easiest way to do the job.

 

[Coaldust]

If we are talking easy, call your tire guy. Might be less expensive than running all over the place trying to find a bud socket.

 

[Vetech63]

This thread would have been real entertaining if we would have let Joe beat on the back of that rim for an hour or so first. LOL (Like I did the very first time I saw that set-up.)

 

[Truck Shop]

Plus changing a tire while wheel mounted on axle--depends on side wall and casing.
The other is getting it seated even on the rim, rim should be off laying down on air up.

 

[cfherrman]

I had a guy change a front tire and he mounted it then seated the bead. I just did the same on one of my front tires with a can of ether. I really liked it and it can't go anywhere.

 

[kshansen]

Can this be true:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/STEELMAN-3-4-in-Drive-x-13-16-in-4-Point-Square-Budd-Impact-Socket/1002702724?user=shopping&feed=yes&srsltid=AfmBOorPTEGtFqw9G1yW26tEUL1GHC9qohqWRmGfmcETIcT3UJFR1eplLMI

$12.97 and available through Lowes?? Only problem is it looks like a two week wait!

Amazon shows this:

https://www.amazon.com/JXHONG-Drive-13-16-4-Point/dp/B0CJTVPS6F/ref=sr_1_30?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ex4MZUloRSCKCYMI1lJrV276d-DKs4X0d4kHUWz8tI0E0pAz5Yd3BBBn-iVX3NPWqgtApGuiWvmWDofq8ZSEIjbkXCULbkeNuEWoLVts8hGYeUFk9TxKdix1Z2d-qN1RtxQkyimbmU7aLCmZTmvVnieVEK62AlFENivxiDSt4Xk9DAlmiP1imQ9OfcO-lZ5pSFrh2EtiJq9uz5f24qx-By4e4QFcRPsfc7RiL6XWO5gme2SNfiFj1zRrB9H69z16aIOnXYH3WR6wX2TNhpT2YbPFAthOEZMTg7VawXDSri4.K_EOm56QmgPvZisEmg5G3QusuQZ_BuCkxLSTN_nTrfs&dib_tag=se&keywords=budd+wheel+socket&qid=1715000671&sr=8-30

 

[kshansen]

Been years since I even saw a Budd wheel, but after doing some looking I see several different sizes so guess it would be important to measure the square of that "nut". Also would I be right to recall that the "nut" is stamped "R" or "L" to let you know which way to turn them.