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Good mid-size backhoe I can tow with a pickup trailer?

DMiller

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My typical haul for the Brother In Law's Farm some years back was a SD Ford 250, SW Gooseneck rated at 13,000, my Allis 180 and a Bush hog mower. Gear in truck, Fuel and gear on trailer with tractor. Close to Gross of Trailer, had to step up to 24K License on truck from 18K as was considerably over that. 8700 truck, extra fuel and gear, trailer just at 3500, tractor at 7800 and bush hog at 1800. Is the main reason would rather step up to Class 6 or 7. Buddy from work bought a 580 Case, had extra spare rear and front tires, forks and smaller rear bucket, hauled it one time 18 miles for him and did not care for the Tall weight.

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DMiller

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The reason parked where it is was a rusted thru brake line to the drive axle, BEHIND the fuel tank. This was after got line swapped.

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Steve Best

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I am kinda new to owning tractors and backhoes. Own a few properties about 50 miles apart from each other. This is a semi-retirement hobby, not a business, so looked to keep costs down. Here any truck over F350 is heavily regulated so I opted for a farm tractor due to the easy regulation and taxation. I rather enjoy the slow drive during quiet times. Then I needed a backhoe and bought this MF50:
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It is considerably slower on the road, making trailering more attractive. Its weight is somewhere in the 10,000-12,000 lbs according to paper. I'm gonna be looking at the other side of the equation, what truck and trailer to get.

I ran a Search and Rescue team for a while and we had a similar issue. We had a half-ton 4wd truck and needed to haul 2 ARGO off-road vehicles. The half-ton was perfect for transporting teams to remote areas, where a 3/4 or 1-ton would beat them up. So what to get for a trailer? We ended up with a lightweight aluminum 24' that put length and weigh and GVW right to the limit.
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Training driver's was a nightmare. Every guy seemed to figure he was God's gift to driving and we had a serious problem qualifying drivers. Speed and driving for conditions were big concerns. I instigated training programs where we had them driving in wind and braking on hills so they would learn to respect the load. My hat goes off to professional truck drivers.

Much in this thread is so true. The weight always increases, tires are so important, brakes are more important than axles, and good judgement is the most important driving skill.

Anyway, we had to pare the trailer weight to a minimum (aluminum light duty, minimal options) to keep from overloading the truck's GVWR.

Oh yes, about loaded tires. I run loaded tires on my old farm tractor. Depending on on the strength of chloride this adds between 300-370 lbs to each 12.4x28 tire.
 
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DMiller

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Have 60+/- gallons EACH rear on my Allis 180, methanol based water mix for freeze protection for right at 450 up to 500 lbs. for each rear.
 

RenoHuskerDu

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Hey guys, decided to downsize the tractor to an LS 55hp with cab, loader, backhoe. I can tow that easily behind my dually, even with weight left over for my compactor, chained sideways in the front of the trailer.

Thanks for all the tips.
 
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