DEEREMAN, not deerefan. And there you go guessing and assuming again. You might not know which machine they are involved in but I DO!! I really don't do pissing matches with nobody on here b/c its really quite pointless. But when its clearly written there it is what it is. Yes, If you need to forward an email. By all means. DO!! And your opinion on the dozers are, well , quite that, an opinion. I KNOW plenty of people that love their 450c's and wouldn't trade them for anything. And if you think its just a deere engine in a hitachi YOU need to make a trip to Kernersville,NC. And talk with one of the guys there!!Deerfan I give up!!It clearly states that Liehberr brought S.D to the table to design a system for john Deeres 605.After the success of the 650j ( which I assume they also designed)!I don't know what else to tell you, other than a written note from the CEO ofJohn Deere.If you ask me the writings on the wall,and as far as Hitatchi goes they are their own Idenetity.John Deere doesnt tell them anything.And the John Deere hoes are Hitatchi with JD engines end of story.The early Jd crawlers Were poor and if it wasn't for Liebherr we would still have a gearshift between our legs and the long lever steering clutch.I guess the whole Just of this thread is to prove that Liehberr was involved with Jd's small dozers, the 650j which they make reference to is clearly stated.We do not know which others were involved but me being a guessing man I would say probably all. I do have a e-mail in to the vp of marketing and hopefully he can clerify which I'm sure he will be happy to!Most of them are eager to help!It also states that Liebherr builds a number of loaders and dozers for Jd,it also states that SD worked as a team with Liebherr and Jd as far back as 97 in a joint effort????How much more is needed?
Cutting Edge-you just can't tell someone something when it comes straight from the horses mouth. Back to the OP