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CAT 963 - Right Machine?

BackertheBiker

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You can see here the loader has an additional opening in the side of the track frame, where the track frame mounts to the arm going to the frame of the machine on the back side. It also supports the rod to the front idler, and has grease zerks on it. He took the cap off that, pulled the bulkhead loose, but said he couldn’t get the tensioner cylinder out because that mounting arm was still in the way.

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From what I can see, the manual doesn’t show this extra opening / front idler rod support.

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BackertheBiker

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Progress report for today:

I ran out of usable dirt last night in the area I had cleared, so had to go on a dirt hunt today.. My cousin came out with his Mini and started clearing trees for me, while I started putting the rocky, sandy material available on the back side of the dam. I’m still several feet short in the middle - should be able to find enough when these trees are cleared.

It’s comical how the pictures don’t show the enormity of this dam. It’s every bit of 20’ tall on the wet side, and another 8-10 high on the dry side. For a one man show, I’m pretty proud of what I’ve gotten done here so-far. Or at least I will be if it holds water

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BackertheBiker

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I’ve been packing it with the backhoe. You’re correct - this is an unpacked layer, and it’s very dry. The rain helped get some moisture back into things, and I’ll pack it with the backhoe / track loader before another layer. I was pushing dirt along the top today, out to the middle, so the overflow fell off either side of the dam. Trying to get my best dirt all the way to top grade, then I’ll fill in with the less desirable stuff on the lake side, and the rocky stuff on the dry side. I think I’m getting it packed well enough. I think one of the pics I posted yesterday shows it after I packed it
 

BackertheBiker

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Things have really been shaping up here, and we’re in the final stages of putting this thing together! I’ve had some great help from friends and family the last couple weekends, and we’re putting the finishing touches on this lake. Check out the video for current progress.


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Can’t believe how much we’ve gotten done out here, can’t believe how well it’s gone, and absolutely can’t believe what a great machine this 963 has been! Of course though, when I have about 2 hours of work left to do with it, I went and busted a hydraulic hose. No big deal I thought - I’ve changed a bunch of hydraulic hoses over the years.. Well, after getting the front plates off in the dark tonight, I’ve realized this may not be just a simple hose replacement. It’s one of the bucket tilt hoses, and it goes down inside / potentially under? the machine. It’s the yellow line circled in the photo below. I gave up and came inside - will work on it again tomorrow. Anyone know where the bottom end is? How hard is it to get to and replace?

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Thank you all so much here! You’ve all been an incredible help, and a great motivation to help me accomplish this dream! Couldn’t have done it without all of you!
 

BackertheBiker

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Thanks all! And big thanks to everyone here who helped out, lent advice, or encouraged me. Couldn’t have done it without your help.

Looks awesome! Well done.

Good job on the erosion control and grassing - looks professionally done.

Thanks! Just using the tools we had - and I had plenty of straw available! Had to plant that grass twice though.. Few weeks after it came up, the damn army worms came through and ate every single blade of grass.. Seems to be established now though - should green up in spring..
 

CM1995

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Thanks! Just using the tools we had - and I had plenty of straw available! Had to plant that grass twice though.. Few weeks after it came up, the damn army worms came through and ate every single blade of grass.. Seems to be established now though - should green up in spring..

Yeah the army worms were terrible down here as well. Kept the grassing companies busy.
 

Georgia Iron

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How's your lake doing? Do you have any current photos? Did you ever figure out how much in fuel you spent?

I recently got my own 963 and had to put an undercarriage on it. I have a different track adjustment mechanism than the one you were using. It seems as if yours was like the old 953 style. My machine uses 953 teeth for the bucket. I had a track tensioner issue on mine and it turns out when I loosened the grease fitting to compress the tracks, I bent the retaining plate and grease was able to escape from the oring on top. Took a flat steek plate made it flat and it held grease again.
 

BackertheBiker

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I think I landed around $5k in fuel total, so around 1,300 gallons I think, and that included carrying about 100 bucket loads of old coal shale uphill 100 yards, away from the lake - several hundred gallons in itself. Everyone’s guesses were pretty spot-on - I used around 6 gallons per hour / 60 gallons in a 10 hour day. The machine moved dirt much better than I anticipated though, and even with hauling all that shale up the hill, I think I only put a little over 200 hours in the cab.

I was so impressed by that 963! Such a work horse, and really had very few problems with it! Track adjuster was a pain, but had been failing for a long time before I got ahold of it..

I was really disappointed with my grass guy. He was slow to get out there initially, so by the time it was planted it was already late in the year. Then it didn’t rain forever, and when the grass finally came up, the damn army worms ate it all. That wasn’t his fault, but he didn’t come back to reseed for several more weeks. By the time he got back, it was too late, and nothing grew before winter. So over the winter the hillside eroded pretty badly, and all the damn topsoil washed away. I’m still upset about this.. I ended up reseeding it myself this spring, and after a lot of fertilizer I’m finally getting grass to grow. Been a lot of work though. Lesson to learn here is one I already knew - if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.

I got concrete pillars poured for the dock through the fall before it filled up - just barely. The water level was chasing me all the way up.. It was completely full and going out the overflow in early February.

Overflow is sized well - we had some really hard rains earlier in the year, and it was only halfway up the pipe.

I’m not sure yet how well the lake is holding water. There’s a lot of land draining into this area, so it’s been flowing through the overflow all spring. This week though it finally fell below the overflow pipe. I’m concerned about a wet spot at the bottom of the dam, but it was there last year too with no water in the lake. It’s definitely a spring - time will tell if the lake water is adding to it. Worst case though, I lose a foot or so of water during the dry season, and it will fill back up very quickly once we get some rain.

We stocked minnows, bluegill, and redear this spring. We’ll put bass and catfish in next spring. There are about a million tadpoles in there right now, and the first set of minnows has spawned, so there are roughly a million nearly-microscopic minnows swimming around too. Good bass food!

It’s all coming together! Went swimming a couple weeks ago on a warm day. We’ve been getting the kayaks out on it. And I have lumber for the dock, and will start building it as soon as we get another warm day.

I guess I don’t have any recent pictures from up there. I’ll post some from earlier this year, and I’ll try to remember to take some when I get up there tonight and post later. Bottom image is the seeding I did - no credit to the lawn guy I threw money away to..


Rough cost breakdown for the project:

Machine Rental: $300 thank you gift card to a good friend. Couldn’t do it without them
Fuel: $5k
Machine Repairs: $2,600
Drain tile: $1,100
Seeding: $1,500 (worst spent money)
Dock: $3,500

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Welder Dave

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Do you need permission from the county to stock fish and is it big enough for all the fish you plan to have? Here you have to meet certain requirements to have fish. I think you have to have a way to aerate the pond as well.
 

HarleyHappy

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You only need to aerate for trout. Personally, on my land, I could care less what the county, the king or anyone else for that matter, says what the law is.
I just go out to old bass ponds and catch some bass and pumpkin seeds and put them in a 5 gallon bucket and if there are enough tadpoles and minnows, life will live.
 

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Bought a house with a 1/4 acre pond with no fish in it. Owner said the fish came out of the mud too early one year and cold weather killed them. I'm like sure buddy. Anyways I stocked with bass and minnows. There were plenty of tadpoles too. One bad winter the pond froze up solid for the whole winter. Usually, we would get some thawing and see some open water. Didn't think much of it until spring when I found all the fish were dead.
Maybe you don't need to aerate but, you do need to have some open water in the winter
 
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