well I talked with a Kubota dealer, hes mailing me more info on a kx121-3 and a few other models that size. he said he has a 05 for 35K sold it to the guy new and that guy just upgraded to a newer unit. I cant remember the amount of hours that were on that one. I really liked everything I've read and seen on the Kubota's I just wish that the bucket didn't require me to get out and change it...