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Overload of the Day

Old Doug

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427 Tall block Chevy; I'd start from home with 50 gallons, drive with empty trailer to Dave's to pick up his 15000 LB antique tractor, 35 miles. I'd load, and drive 40 miles up one mountain, back down to near his elevation. Late day, I'd reverse the trip. Getting home, I'd put 40 gallons in, less than 4 MPG. 70 miles with no load but trailer.

I've got to say this anemic diesel I now have hurts less on fuel! Nearly 3 times as far on a gallon.
My 366 LP got 3.5 pulling my pickup.
 

56wrench

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Dec 4, 2016
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alberta
as far as the 534 being a guzzler, etc. that may be true but most of the fire trucks in the 70's with ford c series chassis used them. i think it was because it was the biggest and most dependable gas engine that ford made that was able to be shoehorned into the c series chassis. there weren't a lot of choices of chassis for mid-mounted fire pumps that were not custom made so therefore the ford was probably the cheapest
 

John C.

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Machinery & Equipment Appraiser
The 4-53 was a great engine for a commercial charter fishing boat. It worked real well in small excavators of the day. Lots of Drott excavators and cruise cranes had them. Fit in the engine compartments and left some room to be able to swing a wrench and do basic maintenance. They only ran for around 5,000 hours before needing in framed but you could do the in frame in a weekend pretty easily.
 

Birken Vogt

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as far as the 534 being a guzzler, etc. that may be true but most of the fire trucks in the 70's with ford c series chassis used them. i think it was because it was the biggest and most dependable gas engine that ford made that was able to be shoehorned into the c series chassis. there weren't a lot of choices of chassis for mid-mounted fire pumps that were not custom made so therefore the ford was probably the cheapest

For the little yokel volunteer FD the 534 made the truck run down the road and it didn't need air brakes either. Other options were the Cat 1100 series and 3208 I thought were quite good for that era. The other option was the 8.2 Detroit which we have already talked about. They made the C-series up until at least 1989 with 20" lock ring wheels and everything.
 

DaveVB

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Kansas City, Mo
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Maintenance Tech at Private Bible College
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Jd 410 with extendahoe I have scale ticket that puts that model like that at 22 thousand plus pickup and trailer they are way over combined gvwr and a new model 710 with a cab is just shy of 29000 a friend broke his 15 ton tilt after a 710 on it every day for about a year busted frame
I see now why a friend quit the backhoe business. Hard to justify the rig needed to move one.
 

AzIron

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I see now why a friend quit the backhoe business. Hard to justify the rig needed to move one.
It's not hard to justify the rig to move them you just have to understand the overhead involved and decide how serious your going to be about it

If you go with a real truck they last a long time some guys like the 1 ton cause they use it as a daily and get a new one every 3 to 4 years and justify the payments on there buissness

I opt for real trucks its inexpensive if you know what to look for and it gives you a ton more options
 

skyking1

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washington
The real truck I am driving is a 1992 that they purchased in 2000, and it still gets it done.
I had a lady try and do suicide by Ford on my way home today. I had a long green and was doing 35, she pulled up after somebody turned right, and just started to go for it without looking. She was too busy yelling at her teenage son while looking at him to look to the left. I dynomited the brakes.
I think he screamed because then she hit the brakes and I rolled on through, and did not collect any paint on the back of the truck either from the cars behind me.
We get stopped at the next light and she is rolling slowly up in the left turn lane, screaming at her child. Not looking where she is going.
I give a blast of air horn to get her attention, and pointed the fickle finger of " pay attention lady" at her. She briefly looked at me and kept on yelling. The light changes and the people behind her have to honk at her too.
SHEESH!
 

Truck Shop

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That right there {above} is the reason my cdl will no longer exist after this last renewal. People can't drive, and don't want to take responsibility
behind the wheel. Also one of the reasons I sold my Wing 7 years ago. I decided I didn't like the idea of being a organ donor. Only reason I have
a cdl is to test drive and operate the company tow truck plus drive My Last One once a month.

Very few people obey traffic signs and rules-which creates a free for all. I personally think all traffic lights, stop signs and yield signs should be
removed for three months and let the mayhem begin. There's a loft in the shop I will move in there for the three months.:)
 

JLarson

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AZ
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Owner- civil and heavy repair/fab company
What really kills me is that people can't figure out flashing red/red, red/yellow or out traffic lights. You'd think they'd never gone through an intersection without a light before.
 

suladas

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Canada
That's insane, must run massive boxes there to haul anything. With a 15 yard box and clay that isn't too wet you can fill it right to the boards and it's still legal weight here. Here it's legal as long as it's below the side board. If i'm hauling anything that's light enough to load high, as long as it's below the sideboard on the edges I have no problem heaping the center, it's not going anywhere. IMO the left side is fine, if it was tarped I honestly doubt you'd loose even a pebble on the right side driving normally. Without seeing how big the box is, impossible to judge if it's too heavy, but judging how low that box is compared to top of cab it doesn't look that deep.
 

suladas

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Maybe i'm an a$$hole in my thinking but when it comes to driving with the semi, my idea is people driving like idiots are playing russian roulette, and if they do something stupid and cross my path, i'm not risking my life or my business for it. I have a dash cam to record, why take the ditch and risk getting messed up badly or writing off my truck/equipment and costing me huge amounts of money for someone else's stupidity? Taking a steep ditch with a hoe on the back is a really bad idea and there is not a chance in hell I will do it to save someone else from themselves. The part that baffles me it seems with my old truck compared to when I used my dads, people are worse for cutting me off which I don't get, his was a 2015 durastar which doesn't look big, compared to my old western star that is all steel in the front that will not be forgiving. But I will say I never rush with the hoe on, if it takes a few more minutes to get somewhere so be it. But you can't win, i've found if you leave more room in front of you, you get cut off even worse and it's more dangerous. I swear every trip i'm swearing at a handful of idiots at least.

The last one wasn't related to driving per say. Dropping off hoe at a dig in a residential area a few weeks ago where they are redoing the streets so it's a nightmare getting in. I unchain hoe get everything prepped before I back in to unload because I have to block the street, just as i'm getting in the hoe guy is yelling and swearing at me to move saying he needs through you can't block the road it's illegal, etc, etc saying it's an emergency so I ask what kind? Family emergency he says, Ya BS. Whole time he is sitting in his SUV yelling and swearing at me, I bet he didn't wait 3 minutes and he could have got around if he went on the sidewalk which I pointed out but he said "i'm not driving on the sidewalk". People are just idiots. I would have let him have it but the customer was coming to meet me so the last thing I wanted was them to show up and see me arguing with someone. For the record it was in a higher end subdivision with people who think they are somebody and the douchbag was driving the typical fancy SUV.... The type that will cut you off 5' in front of your bumper to get 1 car length ahead.....
 

DMiller

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More drivers here are opting for full scale high end dash cams and side cams. Gwo other drivers at the yard I run from have them as have to drive in STL and KC to access pickups or drops, there have been two incidents against one of these drivers where his camera footage flipped blame back to the car driver where one was a swerve in front and brake check ass ender. Auto driver was issued a C&I in court during the lawsuit trying to get a new car from dash cam footage.
The other gut lug stud/nut destroyed a Land Rover right side from front wheel well back, side cam showed the Rover come across lane lines not the semi, moron was on a cell phone. Suit was dropped but his insurance still refuses to pay for studs and alcoa rim.
 
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