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Driveshaft Cardan Joint

Welder Dave

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Toyota's have always had terrible rusting issues, not just the body but the frames too. Know of one that was meticulously cared for and maintained since new but had to be parked. Not much rust on the body but the frame at the rear shock mounts was completely rusted out.
 

mitch504

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The Toyota pickups we were talking about were basically Hi-luxes, but they had no marketing name in the US. I don't know what the Tacomas really are, if they are US only or not. I stopped being a Toyota Guy in the late '90s.
 

mks

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My brother ran 250k miles on a 2006 Tundra no problem. It passed the rust inspection recall somehow. Others not so much. Some for sale ads indicate the frame has been replaced here in northern Illinois.
The body on his truck held up surprisingly well.
 

Queenslander

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Must be what it is kenh...certainly no salted roads here.
We have a collection of 5 landcruiser utes of varying ages...the oldest one turns 30 next year...and a twenty year old Hilux with hardly a hint of rust between them.
I’ve never heard of them being any more rust prone than anything else over here, even on the coast.
 

Welder Dave

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Alberta used/uses very little salt on the roads and in the 80's and 90's Toyota trucks were about the worst on the road for rust.
 

Welder Dave

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A couple years ago they tried using a liquid type deicer with salt in it instead of the coarse sand/gravel. It was horrible! If it got below about -10C it was like they watered the road and it turned into a sheet of ice. It did cause more rusting on vehicles too. Thank god they voted to not continue using it.
 

56wrench

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i don't know where you got your information from, but anywhere around here they use sand and reject sand and mix it with calcium. its way worse than salt ever was. it picks up humidity from the air and also stays wetter longer. i see the super b calcium haulers on the highway regularly and get mad all over again
 

Welder Dave

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Vehicles from Ontario were always known for extreme rusting issues because they used more salt. I found the info below from the City of Edmonton. The calcium chloride brine by itself was horrible and I think mixing it with the sand is a relatively new process. The sand with rock chips works the best. I've heard it can be reused 3 times before the chips are too rounded to help much. What is very evident is they don't put nearly as much sand down as they used to. They are always complaining they are over budget for snow and ice removal.

They waste money on stupid stuff and the work that needs done is neglected. They used to cut the grass along road sides, freeways and empty lots. Now they planted a bunch of tree's along freeways trying to make it look better but the grass isn't cut so the tree's defeat the purpose. They used a zillion paving stones along the Whitemud Freeway and what a waste of money. They're buckling, lifting up, missing and have weeds growing in-between them. Looks like crap. The city overall looks very unkept to what it used to be.

"The sand mix is a mixture of sand, salt, rock chips (which are being phased out of the mix) and calcium chloride brine. The City follows a matrix for determining the specific ratios of sand, salt and chip required to combat icy or snowy conditions depending on the conditions. Edmonton is one of the lowest salt users of Canada’s major cities - salt accounts for only 12 to 18% of the materials applied to the roads annually."
 

Old Doug

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The boss just bought a toyota that has had a replacement frame. I thought they would have made them better and not put so many holes in them but they didnt look any diffrent from the old frame.
 

56wrench

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where i live i always get rock chip damage on my vehicles from some of that reject stuff that LaPrairie uses.i run bug screens or winterfronts on my vehicles year round just to keep the grit from damaging the a/c condensers. apparently the max spec is 4mm but i have walked out on the highway and looked at it after they have applied it and there is a lot that is in the 6mm size. on the local river valley hill they seem to use bigger stuff than that. even though i wash my trucks as much as i can, i live just off a secondary highway that gets a shot of calcium/sand/chips whenever there is any white stuff on the road and repeated applications until it all turns to slop and they can scrape most of it off. then it takes week to dry the surface. combined with calcium chloride dust control that the county uses on the side roads, my vehicles and equipment all corrode and rust prematurely. i wish our county did like Edmonton did and use alternative methods/mixtures. if people nowadays could/would drive responsively, we wouldn't need so much ice control. our warmer winters and mid-winter temperature fluctuations don't help either. it was rare to get freezing rain 40 years ago but its the new normal now. about 3 yrs ago we drove through freezing rain near Dawson Creek at approx. -20c. WTF? i apologize for the rant but the calcium/salt/sand/chips subject always makes me mad
 

John C.

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Steve, were you able to get the drive back into your truck? I always wondered why they left that area in the axle housing open?
 

Steve Frazier

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Once I started pricing out parts it turned out to be cheaper to put in a replacement driveshaft. It bothers me to do it because there's nothing wrong with the shaft but that's just the way it is. It's scheduled to be delivered tomorrow and will just be a bolt in.

Discovered the ball joints are shot, I'll be replacing them this weekend.
 
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