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Vacuum Pump for Hydraulics

Ldvlie

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Looking for a 12 volt vacuum pump for hydraulic systems. Deere has one and Wirtgen Group has one, but I would rather get one from a third party if possible. Has anybody ever gotten one elsewhere? Also, is putting a vacuum on a plastic hydraulic tank an issue? Does it need to be regulated, and if so what is the best way to do that?
 

Delmer

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Yes, a vacuum pump on a hydraulic tank can cause problems, google rail tank car "implosion" if you want to see how. A shop vac with or without a suck bucket will only produce 2-4' of water head, so will not damage anything on heavy equipment if that's enough for what you're doing. Need a little more info on the intended purpose.
 

Ldvlie

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Yes it is for heavy equipment. Trying to put a kit together for a reasonable price. I work in a hydraulic shop rebuilding pumps, etc. and get sent on service calls occasionally and would like be prepared as best I can for what I might see but cannot spend an arm and a leg on it.
 

funwithfuel

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Yes, a vacuum pump on a hydraulic tank can cause problems, google rail tank car "implosion" if you want to see how. A shop vac with or without a suck bucket will only produce 2-4' of water head, so will not damage anything on heavy equipment if that's enough for what you're doing. Need a little more info on the intended purpose.
I have that tank car saved as a gif. Can't upload it. Its amazing how 1 atmosphere can change things for the worse.
 

funwithfuel

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I thought there was a specific reason the OP wanted electric. As mentioned by everyone else, i have a pneumatic ventruri . They're like $15-20 at the harbor fright tool store. 90psi inlet produces 24-28" at 5-6 cfm. With that you can swap out a -12 hose with no caps. Just monitor the tank walls. Plastic will let you know much sooner than steel. I would think, any more than 12" on plastic would be asking for it. On real full size equipment with steel tanks, i go for 24" the parts are bigger and gravity never takes a break.
Good luck
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Break all that plastic off to get at the core fitting, that's where the magic happens. And its cheaper than i thought.
 

Per Eriksson

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12V electric is the way to go, no need to have the service truck close to the machine or messing with inverters.
Just a small pump with cig lighter adapter or alligator clips to hook on to the machines batteries.
 

Delmer

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If you want 12v, and this is for a small vacuum to keep fluid from draining out of the tank while you remove a fitting below the oil level, then I'd get a VW or Volvo smog pump, put it on a board with a cage for protection, and add power cables with clamps and a switch. It will not produce enough vacuum to hurt anything, and will produce enough volume for the task. https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/air-pump-fix-tutorial-volvo/

If you're evacuating moisture, then you need a refrigeration pump, or one of those venturi pumps and a big compressor.
 

Ldvlie

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If you want 12v, and this is for a small vacuum to keep fluid from draining out of the tank while you remove a fitting below the oil level, then I'd get a VW or Volvo smog pump, put it on a board with a cage for protection, and add power cables with clamps and a switch. It will not produce enough vacuum to hurt anything, and will produce enough volume for the task. https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/air-pump-fix-tutorial-volvo/

If you're evacuating moisture, then you need a refrigeration pump, or one of those venturi pumps and a big compressor.
Ok, I will investigate. Thanks
 

mg2361

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This little puppy will pull 20"+ on full air and it is whisper quiet. For sensitive things like plastic tanks I just regulate the air going into it to regulate how much vacuum I want out of it. It is a shame that Milton doesn't make this anymore. The best vacuum tool I own.

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Ldvlie

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This little puppy will pull 20"+ on full air and it is whisper quiet. For sensitive things like plastic tanks I just regulate the air going into it to regulate how much vacuum I want out of it. It is a shame that Milton doesn't make this anymore. The best vacuum tool I own.

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Did you make that adapter yourself?
 
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