Well I thought it was neat......

[DMiller]

What trailer make is that Nige, I cannot make out the name tag.

 

[Nige]

It looks like it's a Nooteboom, made in Holland. https://www.nooteboom.com/cat/eurotrailers/

Nooteboom and Faymonville out of Luxembourg (https://www.faymonville.com/) have pretty well got the European specialized trailer market sewn up between them. It says a lot that a German outfit is using a Dutch trailer, I'm sure if there was an equivalent German one available they'd be using it.

Another thing I have never seen before is a floodlighting system of the quality that's on the back of the tractor. Very handy when apparently most of your city pickups and drop-offs are going to be made at night.

 

[DMiller]

Looks handy but heavy as all get out, saw a second vid where the tandems on the nose raise independently making the trailer more a detachable Neck trailer but steer even when up from fifth wheel position. Very slick.

 

[Nige]

Looks handy but heavy as all get out, saw a second vid where the tandems on the nose raise independently making the trailer more a detachable Neck trailer but steer even when up from fifth wheel position. Very slick.

I get the impression that the two axle dolly at the front is more to improve the manoeuvrability characteristics of the trailer in tight spaces than it is for out and out load carrying capacity. It certainly turns pretty tight for a rig that size.

 

[TVA]

We have our share of steerable lift axles, transfer dump boxes, extendable dump trailer hitches, switchable camber lift axles, and so on, and so forth! Here in NA!
I guess my question about original video is: do they have separate truck going around and picking up those empty pallets? Or you have to have whole lot of those pallets to do exchange! Otherwise it just don’t make any sense!

 

[Nige]

Sorry, double post.

 

[Nige]

Came across a few interesting videos. Not necessarily trailers per se but showcasing the way transport is going on our side of The Pond. I do like that DAF Ecocombi outfit....... 60 tonnes (132,000 pounds) GCW. Impressive.

 

[Truck Shop]

I always liked truck/trailer, it was very common years ago. But these days most refrigerated and dry freight has gone to drop and hook, live load/unload is becoming a thing of the past.
That's one reason the company has double the amount of trailers to tractors. The E-Log and setting time at the dock doing it live burns to much time off the drivers clock.

 

[old-iron-habit]

I can see the efficiency of the paper roll trailer, especially on a dedicated route. I only see two problems. Most 'drivers' today would take an hour trying to back into one setting there loaded. It would need an auto steer reverse function for many of them to hit it. Around here I wonder how long the tray would slide with the salt and calcium chloride road mix spraying on them every day.

 

[Truck Shop]

Back-up camera for the pintle hitch-is what would take place of poor depth perception.----And there we go with another gadget to take place of talent. But there already out there.

 

[Nige]

I always liked truck/trailer, it was very common years ago.

I also like the steerable axle on the back of the truck. Makes what would likely be quite tricky reversing the combo a hair easier.

These type of trailers with steerable axles are very common over here. Not so common over there I'd guess. Also walking floors are becoming more popular than tippers for many types of materials.

 

[Nige]

I can see the efficiency of the paper roll trailer, especially on a dedicated route. I only see two problems. Most 'drivers' today would take an hour trying to back into one setting there loaded. It would need an auto steer reverse function for many of them to hit it.

Try reversing one of these. These guys make it look easy.......

 

[DMiller]

At one time watched the yard monkeys back triples at PIE & Garrett in Salt Lake
One Fella to prove could be done backed a set around the warehouse at Garrett.
I admittedly have issues backing a farm wagon!! Do not do that often enough.

 

[Old Doug]

Some cool trucks and 2 cool drivers. I wonder if the tag/pusher axle will catch on here more in the future?

 

[DMiller]

Really do not want to see more Rubber Band Drives as had in the sixties!! Tag Pushers here seem to be less demonstrably functional except to haul weight, tend to be heavy and somewhat awkward. Europe Engineers have gotten quite a handle on their designs but do not seem to make it to US markets. I really can appreciate the steerable trailer axles, are these floating/trailing to steer or directed to position? Mechanism off truck geometry to fifth wheel orientation?

 

[Nige]

I really can appreciate the steerable trailer axles, are these floating/trailing to steer or directed to position? Mechanism off truck geometry to fifth wheel orientation?

Dunno. Need to investigate further. As you say they are neat. Note that the tyres are super-singles. I doubt that system would work anywhere near as well with duals.

Answer - you can have single or double axle cable steering.

Bulthuis KB21/KB31 cable steering is a forced steering on the rear axle. This is done with the help of a control cable from the fifth wheel coupling. The system can be used on 2-axle and 3-axle trailers with a steel or aluminum chassis.

Or for 2-axle steering - The Bulthuis KBS32 steering is a system that consists of a tiller arm in combination with a control cable. The tiller arm runs from the fifth wheel to the front bogie, in combination with a steering cable connecting both bogies. This control can be used on steel and aluminum chassi

https://www.vbtrailerbouw.nl/bulthuis/item/bulthuis-stuursystemen

 

[DMiller]

Thanks Nige

 

[DMiller]

Most US Build trailers are built EXTRA Light, as in Frameless so this may not be a option here.

Fairly Complex platform but EU narrow secondary roadways would require such.

 

[56wrench]

what beautiful roads! i did not see a single pothole or broken pavement in any of the videos. also, around here a lot of the signs would be damaged

 

[DMiller]

They have Drivers, we have Herders.