I have a 1989 D4H

[Nige]

For your location TO-4 SAE30 would be the appropriate oil. Use a good branded oil, not stuff from your local parts house.

Regarding level are you checking it "per the book" with the transmission oil at operating temperature, engine idling, & transmission in neutral..?
Your dipstick may have markings on both sides. If it has, then one side will be "Engine Stopped - Oil Cold" (what you should check before starting to make sure the machine is safe to start) and the other "Engine Idling - Warm Oil" or something similar. The second one is the more reliable level check.

If you haven't changed the oil and filter since acquiring the machine now may be the time to do it, just so you know what you have.

 

[James2019]

Okay, I have both statements on my dip stick. They did some work on the machine when they put new pads on, I can see that they had the floor plate up, couple new bolts, I'm guessing they changed that filter but not sure, Gave me a 51798 oil filter and 51163 oil filter that was replaced but don't know what those filters are.
See the 51163 is the same as 1R-0773 Cat Filter but they may have changed the Hydro filter

 

[Bluox]

A 1798 is motor oil and 1163 is transmission.
Cold oil will cause a filter indicator to flash until it warms up.
Now could you start your story over from the beginning ?
Thanks
Bob

 

[Nige]

Those don’t sound like Cat Numbers. What brand are they..?

Scratch that. Bob was typing at the same time I was.

 

[James2019]

Thanks I think the brand is Win or Wix? Is this the same filter used on the Hydraulic Oil Will cold oil also cause the Fault Alarm to go off?

 

[Bluox]

Thanks I think the brand is Win or Wix? Is this the same filter used on the Hydraulic Oil Will cold oil also cause the Fault Alarm to go off?

Yes and yes.
Bob

 

[James2019]

thanks

 

[James2019]

I got the CTS Report let me know what you think

 

[John C.]

The report lists the brand of chain as Sorefa which might explain why they didn't give you a percentage worn on it. However there is no excuse for not giving you are percentage worn on the idlers and bottom rollers. I'd have to say that if that is all Fabick is giving you for a report, they have a lazy product support salesman or it's indicative of how far they have fallen as far as product support goes. Did the person that did the measuring actually talk to you about what he did?

 

[James2019]

Yes, and he said he couldn't give a worn % because he didn't know how to compare them to Cat parts. Mentioned I could get by for a while if I took a link out, but he wouldn't put it out to work.
A guy in the office gave parts cost of $9500, and said the links needed to be replaced, waiting on that report.

 

[rondig]

Yep they only measure cat parts around here. I personally go with everything aftermarket and everything new...also that way you can take a link out and run to destruction.... only problem with that is the pins usually break on a job..

 

[Nige]

I read it earlier and was maybe giving Fabick the benefit of the doubt in wondering whether the document had been uploaded from a smartphone and some of the contents had got "lost in translation"...? As an undercarriage report in its present form it stinks.....this is what one of ours looks like.



Also back to the issue of the two filters. If you bought the machine "ready to work" did the seller tell you straight (or simply imply) that all the fluids and filters had been changed..? It just seems strange to me that there would have been a couple of filters "left over" from a full service. Are there any dates marked on any of the filters you can see indicating when they were last changed..?

 

[rondig]

I buy my filters by the case....so i do have "left overs".CAT throws a super deal on filters and oil sometimes....i got filters for years in some applications lol. But this machine i think should have went to auction....sounds like one of those basket cases.
And wix is about cheapest filter out there.

 

[James2019]

Gave me a parts Replaced attached

 

[rondig]

Yep pads did look fairly new....when i did my u/c i kept my pads...
Sorry about your luck....
Only thing you could have him on is the tensioner being way out of spec on one side...that would not be work ready by any standards...unfortunately the rest would be subjective

 

[Nige]

Gave me a parts Replaced attached

That list screams DuPont overhaul to me.
Also I don't see any fluids and filters on it anywhere.

 

[James2019]

Just list Air and Oil Filter on top of first page, but yes no fluids listed.

 

[John C.]

Cat CTS reports are now done complete on site. The report is generated as you use the ultrasonic probe data in the tool and then up link the tool to the cloud. Even the old tools had the capability to generate the report as soon as the tool was connected to a lap top with the software installed. The measurements also show the undercarriage is a mix and match. Likely that used parts were used to replace the most ugly ones on the machine. Used to see it all the time on the gray market machines.

 

[James2019]

So I'm guessing from everyone that the machine is not ready to be put to a days work? Mostly due to the track adjuster being fully extended? Waiting on a cost to take a link out of that side. Just don't know after that where it could do a full days work.

 

[DMiller]

With rails at the extent of wear you have removing a link won't help much as likely to see a pin shear or a link fail or an idler to fail. If the previous owner installed new shoes with old bolts then expect a master link to splay when least need it to. This machine needs undercarriage less shoes plain and simple.