S. Madill, Blacksmith, Founded in 1911 in Nanaimo BC

[TorkelH]

Ok, the two GM 6V is designated 6VA in my list so they probably are 6V71. I guess some of the 8V71 may have been changed by the owners with 6V92? As I understand DD the Detroits must have been prefered by the customers.

 

[Sigurd]

I`m impressed of all the details you gentlemen have about the various machines from Madill and others!" My" first 009 was at Port McNeill, owned by Rayonier 1967/68 , engineer was Emil Pazarena and machine number 1200( guess this was Rayonier numbers).
Has anyone specs about this machine,like line pull and capacity, plus history?

 

[TorkelH]

Rayonier had some "S" spars and 009's as well. The 009 was first sold in 1964 and it seems like they bought the first 009 with "S" series spar then. In 1965 they bought 4 009's, one of them had a "J" series spar (bush?) and 3 had "S" spars and Mark 22 chain sprocket. All mounted on M6 carriers and with GM 8V71 engines with 300 hp. The "S" spars is mentioned to be in Jeune, Holberg and Manhatta. They also got two more relatively similar machines delivered in 1967, on M4A3 carriers. Both of these was converted to 026 A-frame dump hoists with Holberg as home (thats probably for the 026's).

I was looking for 8V71 engines... and then I maybe found the 1200 or Madill # 41200... It had ordinary GM 12VA with 400 hp, but spar is special; a trailer mtd View Sparmatic. "Home" was Jeune Landing. Is that correct? It is a Sparmatic forum here too, maybe you should look through that also...

I have no specs for the 300 or 400 hp 009's but the 3-500 has 52 000 lbs (full) to 106 000 lbs (empty).

 

[LOGDODGER]

Not knocking the 60 Series Detroit, but I have a question: When I was still in the trucking industry, most folks wanted nothing to do with this engine, for several tried and true reasons. Why are they so popular in a yarder application. I'm trying to learn something here.

Our 124s done 17 000 hours, blown 2 turbos, one intake presure sender and dosent use a drop of oil between changes, pretty good run id say!!

 

[075]

Rayonier had some "S" spars and 009's as well. The 009 was first sold in 1964 and it seems like they bought the first 009 with "S" series spar then. In 1965 they bought 4 009's, one of them had a "J" series spar (bush?) and 3 had "S" spars and Mark 22 chain sprocket. All mounted on M6 carriers and with GM 8V71 engines with 300 hp. The "S" spars is mentioned to be in Jeune, Holberg and Manhatta. They also got two more relatively similar machines delivered in 1967, on M4A3 carriers. Both of these was converted to 026 A-frame dump hoists with Holberg as home (thats probably for the 026's).

I was looking for 8V71 engines... and then I maybe found the 1200 or Madill # 41200... It had ordinary GM 12VA with 400 hp, but spar is special; a trailer mtd View Sparmatic. "Home" was Jeune Landing. Is that correct? It is a Sparmatic forum here too, maybe you should look through that also...

I have no specs for the 300 or 400 hp 009's but the 3-500 has 52 000 lbs (full) to 106 000 lbs (empty).

The Sparmatic ended up in Mahatta and it was there until we got rid of six of the eight towers we had there. I believe we shut them down around 1979 or 80. I think the pipe went to Gold River to replace the one they pulled over. One of the Madills had the 8V71 not sure but I think it had a 60 foot pipe on it. Thats they called a salvage tower back then. It went in behind the 90 footer and cleaned up all the small wood the bigger machine left, what back then we called salvage is now called gang, and it went to the Port Alice Pulp Mill as pulp.That went on until Domans took over and used it for sawlogs

 

[Sigurd]

I try to attach a couple of pictures of the Rayonier nr 1200 at Port McNeill,not so good quality I only had Kodak Instamatic camera

 

[69hayes]

Look pretty good Sigurd, when were these taken?

 

[Sigurd]

It was back in 1967, its me at the first pic. and my lunch box.
Think this is a 90 foot spar, is`nt that right?

 

[69hayes]

Yes it looks like a 90 footer, I was only 12 years old in 1967 and still in school, but all I wanted to be was a logger

 

[Vigilant]

Yes it looks like a 90 footer, I was only 12 years old in 1967 and still in school, but all I wanted to be was a logger

Sounds exactly like me at that age.

 

[TorkelH]

Your pictures have excellent quality, Sigurd!

It then seems to be no resemblance between the Rayonier nbr 1200 and Madill 41200. It seems also I was wrong about the spars on the 8VA engined 009 - all of them withouth the one with the shorter "J"-spar had the more light duty 90 feet series "E" spar. 3 delivered to Rayonier in 1965 and two in 1966 (later converted to 026 dump hoists).

It may also be confusion by Madill about the numbers, so it would be interesting to know if you remember any more of the Rayonier 009 numbers, Sigurd. Or maybe you can help, 075?

Torkel

 

[Brian Tuor]

I worked for Madill from 1990 to 1993, the numbers themselves have no meaning or reference to anything about the machine to which thy are applied. They are merely for identification purposes. Either Pat Madill or Tom Niel told me this when I asked them the same question.

Contract Logger set me straight on the Madill yarder numbers. I know there are the 009's 071's 120's 171's 172's. What do all the model numbers mean?

 

[Brian Tuor]

Some one has probably answered this but yes the "S" stands for Sam. He started out Blacksmithing in Nanimo and then eventually the business started making Yarders.

Just found my way back on to the S Madill Loggin Equip site---- does anyone know for sure if the S stands for Sam ?.....My great grandpa Robert had 12 children and Sam was oldest.......... as far as I know he was a blacksmith in small hamlet called Clanwilliam in southern Manitoba.....I guess he being the oldest struck out on his own and didn't stop until he reached Vancouver Island---hopefully that's a reasonably accurate family history.....most of the family remained in Manitoba although another branch may have moved to southern Alberta ......Thanks from Robert Madill (Edmonton Alberta ---moved from Manitoba 35 yrs ago)

 

[TorkelH]

Madill numbers

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[log big]

what year was the 144 and the 143 made ?

 

[TorkelH]

143 was made from 1986 to 1987 and 144 made from 1984 to 1993. Both have serials in the 88000 series.

 

[TorkelH]

Madill numbers

Here's an explanation of many of the Madill numbers on the yarders, approx number of machines built and in which period they where built, as I have collected from various sources. The type nbr seems to have been used in manufacturing and for part numbers - feel free to add more info in the forum:

type	yarder/machine type .	number built	from year	to year	5 digit serials start
007	"S"-series spar, guyline drums, A-frame, saddle and hydraulics	873	1958	1988
009	yarder type 009 model 3-500	682	1964	1983	40,41,43,48,21,22
025	angle drive for rubber mtd spar
026	hoist for A-frame	30	1966	1981
042	water roto union
044	yarding crane	136	1968	1989	44,45,47,60
045	boom and gantry for 044 (some places used on the 047 carrier)
046	slackline yarder 5-500	56	1967	1983	43,21,22,10
047	B-VIII tracked undercarriage for 044, 144 and 12 075	150
052	tension skidder 4-500	19	1969	1972	47,48
057	frame for dump?
058	yarder? Model 4-250 on 061 track	1	1972
061	tracked carrier	1
062	yarder 3-600	1	1972
063	trailer for 052	1
065	rubber tired carrier (009-099) R-220	148
068	rubber tired carrier (052) R-330 6 axle carrier
069	rubber tired carrier (062) R-220	1	1972
071	Five drum yarder ("J"-series spar)	230	1973	1984	70
075	line loader	68	1978	1995	90
076	yarder (071)	1	1973
078	rubber tired carrier (046)	25
079	trailer (009, 046 and 099)	14
080	rubber tired carrier for 044 yarder	12
082	rubber tired carrier for 075 line loader
083	hydraulic yarder 4-200 (South America)	11	1976	1978
084	swing yarder 4-450	3	1989	1984
085	tracked carrier for 075 (smallest version)	17
086	? 1-450	1	1980
087	hydraulic driven track carrier for 122, 123 (BVII) and 143 (BVIII) yarders	78
090	rubber tired carrier (122)	2	1986
099	yarder 4-525 (2 converted from 009's)	7	1987	1990	99
120	swing yarder 4-330	31	1993	present
121	swing yarder 4-350	3	1991	1993	121
122	swing yarder 4-425	47	1985	1991	122
123	swing yarder 4-450	24	1989	1984	123
124	swing yarder 4-450	50	1995	present	124
143	swing yarder 4-525	7	1986	1987	88
144	swing yarder 4-525	19	1984	1993	88
171	skyline yarder 5-450	30	1988	1994	171
172	skyline yarder 5-450	34	1995	present	172

 

[JTL]

Wow Torkel, that took a little time. Thanks for your effort and your time to post this. Very, extra, super cool!!

 

[prolog nz]

Both our swingers 12440 and 12315

 

[log frog]

Great picture.