Im not sure of anything that you can tow 10000lbs with and not be over 26,000lb GVWR
My F350 @ 9900 GVWR + 14k GVWR trailer= 23,900 CGVWR is one good example.
or pretty much any 3/4 or 1 ton with a 12k trailer.
Im not sure of anything that you can tow 10000lbs with and not be over 26,000lb GVWR
its funny u bring that up cause ive done that a few times , like the tri axle i drove had a gvw of 76650 , which was 24 ton of asphalt , then i would haul the trailer to the job with the paver and 5 ton roller on it , or fully loaded with gravel towing the cat 315 (well over 100,000gvw) ..........anyway basically what your asking is what like a 10ton or 20 ton tag behind a single axle ? you'd need a class A cause your GCWR would be over the 26001 #s plus most trailers that heavy have air brakes which is a whole other can of worms in this CDL thing
No Aliate,you can not load the dump truck and pull a backhoe at the same time.You would most likely have at least 2 strikes against you if you get the privlige of getting on those scales.Your GVW of the truck might be over your 33K GVW because of the 10-15% tongue weight bearing down on the back of the truck plus your box load and the fact that you will be way over the GCWR on the door placard.I think from memory my Chevy 7500 33K GVW has a GCWR of app.43K lbs. Years ago when I was full of **** and vinegar,I did do this a few times and I would never want to do it again because it was plain stupid.
I still don't see how you figure that.
When the combination is over 26k GVWR, if the trailer is over 10k GVWR, then you need a Class A. But not solely because the trailer is over 10k GVWR.
I still don't see how you figure that.
When the combination is over 26k GVWR, if the trailer is over 10k GVWR, then you need a Class A. But not solely because the trailer is over 10k GVWR.
In commi-fornia you need a class A CDL if the trailer is rated for 10k or more (loaded or not) OR the combo is over 26k.
This is a great thread, for the first time I get it:Banghead I always thought any trailer over 10,001# needed a class A cdl. But after reading this I again looked at my cdl book and it's funny I can pull a 16,000# trailer behind my 1 ton srw 9,900gvw but would only be able able to pull a 8,500# gvw trailer behind my 550 dump with a 17,500# gvw (actually reg at 19k because thats all that showed in towns book. I could go to state dmv to change but not worth the hassle for just a few bucks), anyway this just seems wrong. Not whats being said it's the law that seems wrong.
Well, technically you could pull up to a 10k trailer with the F550 without a CDL.
How you figuire that? It says anything over 10,001# with a combined over 26,001#. 17,500 plus 10,000 = 27,500#. Not arguing just trying to understand. But either way thats still not much.:beatsme
Class A is for over 26k and 10k simultaneously so even though your example is over 26k it is not over the 10k trailer threshold.
The maximum legal, under CDL requirement weight you could pull would be 36K lbs - 26K GVW truck and 10K GVW trailer. What doesn't make sense is the 550 with a 17.5K GVW pulling a 10.5K trailer (total weight 28K GCWR) would require a Class A CDL, non-air brake endorsement.
The maximum legal, under CDL requirement weight you could pull would be 36K lbs - 26K GVW truck and 10K GVW trailer. What doesn't make sense is the 550 with a 17.5K GVW pulling a 10.5K trailer (total weight 28K GCWR) would require a Class A CDL, non-air brake endorsement.
Class A is for over 26k and 10k simultaneously so even though your example is over 26k it is not over the 10k trailer threshold.
Basically a trailer under 10k+ doesn't even come into the equation.
:beatsme Here all this time I thought anything over that 26,000 was CDL. To throw a wrench at this, my trailer is rated to carry 10,000 pounds but I don't think the trailer weight is figured in to that.