Memories for us old truckers

[kshansen]

R models and DM's, what I learned to drive on. I call those Real Macks, but back when I was learning the Old Guys said that the Real Macks were the B models, so who knows . . . lol

Nope This is what a "REAL" Mack looks like:

 

[DMiller]

Can relate of Rs and DMs as REAL Macks, will always have soft spot INSIDE my head for Bs LJs and LTs

 

[Truck Shop]

Nothing quite like buying a banker another three piece fart bag to wear.

 

[Tugger2]

Nothing quite like buying a banker another three piece fart bag to wear.

And a new pair of gloves to wear so he can grip the rug as he pulls it out from under your feet.

 

[Pops52]

Can relate of Rs and DMs as REAL Macks, will always have soft spot INSIDE my head for Bs LJs and LTs

What model is this? Pic was taken in 1956

 

[Truck Shop]

Late 40's LT because of the louvers on hood side panels.

What model is this? Pic was taken in 1956

 

[crane operator]

So is this a special hood KW? It was sold as a 2001 t-800. Has a N-14 and door tag matches year (mfg date of 10/00). But I've never seen a t-800 set back axle with a hood like this one.

 

[crane operator]

 

[Acoals]

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I am pretty sure that is a special high capacity cooling option. There were T800's with that hood. There was also a hood that had the same slope as a standard T800 but was wider, with single headlights.

 

[crane operator]

I've seen the wide hood ones, there's a dirt guy around here with one.

 

[Acoals]

 

[Truck Shop]

But I've never seen a t-800 set back axle with a hood like this one.

That is a T800B Straight Cowl Split Fender, most are special order. Extra capacity cooling system.
That one has 463P drives-heavy mothers. The RTLO18913A/P is a twin pump not very common/rare.
One is inside with a halo the other run off Aux counter shaft externally-I have never seen one only
a schematic some years ago.

 

[Truck Shop]

What model is this? Pic was taken in 1956

 

[DMiller]

SWEEET!!!

 

[petepilot]

Quit stalling, the price probably goes up everyday. A few more years of inflation and that will be the price of a yohoo and a candy bar. Banks gots plenty of $$$$. Uncle Sam's got your back and the bank's. Its a no lose proposition. Spending money you don't have- its the American Way.

Or- just get those patents done on the loadamower and watch that money roll in......

The only thing standing between you and that KW is you. Think positive. Go dig those mason jars out of the back garden. Toss the old lady off the mattress and get at that secret cash stash. Turn in those bitcoins you've been hoarding.

Really petepilot- its people like you that are holding back the american financial system.

you betcha

 

[Truck Shop]

A fact-the Pete in petepilot's avatar is 10 times the truck that W900 A Kenworth ever was
or will be.

And I like KW's.

 

[Truck Shop]

A little info for those that own a few trucks but really isn't in the trucking business, just farting
around in it hauling their own stuff.

Average cost per mile for a rig running the 48--$1.70 average fuel costs per year $70 to $85,000.
And for the minds that don't know crap about the business.
When a natural disaster happens and material goods need to be moved to that area. Driver hours
of duty are waved. A driver is payed by the mile, OTR runs the 70 hour rule, not 60 hour rule.
There are 11 hours in the seat plus an extra 2 possible for personal conveyance plus 1 hour of
straight on duty for a total of 14 hours in 24 with 10 off duty. Disaster hours of driving are allowed
up to 18 hrs behind the wheel on a paper log. E logs are not designed for logging disaster driving
hours. Drivers running in a disaster are not payed overtime. OTR doesn't operate on a 40 hr week.

That's why the trucking business isn't for everyone, but everyone thinks they know the trucking
business.

 

[Acoals]

Hey, I am that guy farting around hauling my own stuff . . . as far as I am concerned, the trucking business isn't for anyone. At least not anyone who wants to make any money.

I don't know anything about OTR, except that I lose my mind staring out a windshield for more than a few hours at a time, I don't like living in a doghouse, and I have a wife and kids.

But dump trucking, how about that? I am supposed to go out and spend $300,000 on a truck, and then run the wheels off it for $115/hour.

20% down on 300k: $60,000
$240,000@6.5% for 60 months: $4,700/month

So that's $56,000/year
If I can keep the truck running 10hrs/day 5 days a week for 25 weeks (Up north, short year):
$143,000 gross income
A driver: $37,000
Fuel, a little harder to figure, but I am going to say $30,000
Maintenance? A new truck, maybe $10,000 a year?
Registration, insurance and taxes? Shooting from the hip but probably heading toward $10,000

So I am at $143,000. Wait, that was the income.

So I am sure we can work with the numbers a bit, you probably don't have to spend quite that much on a truck, I can try to run the truck harder, and obviously I should run the truck longer than 5 years. I still don't see it.

 

[crane operator]

A fact-the Pete in petepilot's avatar is 10 times the truck that W900 A Kenworth ever was
or will be.

And I like KW's.

One of my guys does more of the trucking now than what I do (and what we do, you really can't call trucking- we deliver equipment once or twice a week).

He doesn't like our pete 379 (1992-3406b daycab), and likes our western star 4694 (kelowna built 1998 12.7 daycab). He's all for selling the pete. But if I went to sell a truck, the pete will bring twice what the western star will. Or if not twice, at least a hefty premium.

I prefer the western star or the pete over our KW, the KW I hit my shins on the bottom of the dash. And I will take any of those trucks over my international. I hate that thing.

Hey, I am that guy farting around hauling my own stuff . . . as far as I am concerned, the trucking business isn't for anyone. At least not anyone who wants to make any money.

I don't know anything about OTR, except that I lose my mind staring out a windshield for more than a few hours at a time, I don't like living in a doghouse, and I have a wife and kids.

But dump trucking, how about that? I am supposed to go out and spend $300,000 on a truck, and then run the wheels off it for $115/hour.

20% down on 300k: $60,000
$240,000@6.5% for 60 months: $4,700/month

So that's $56,000/year
If I can keep the truck running 10hrs/day 5 days a week for 25 weeks (Up north, short year):
$143,000 gross income
A driver: $37,000
Fuel, a little harder to figure, but I am going to say $30,000
Maintenance? A new truck, maybe $10,000 a year?
Registration, insurance and taxes? Shooting from the hip but probably heading toward $10,000

So I am at $143,000. Wait, that was the income.

So I am sure we can work with the numbers a bit, you probably don't have to spend quite that much on a truck, I can try to run the truck harder, and obviously I should run the truck longer than 5 years. I still don't see it.

I don't think that you can compare dump trucking to OTR. They are two totally different business models. I don't think I would put a $18/ hr driver in a new $300,000 dump truck. And no- the rates don't support a new truck.

But my rates won't support new cranes either- so I run 15-20 year old ones. Just like most dump truck only operations don't run new trucks. The only outfits I see running new dumps are large dirt companies/ or quarries, whose main $$$ comes from something else, and the trucks are just a necessary evil.

That's what my trucks are, a necessary evil- I don't make any money on them, but I've got to have a couple to do my main business.

 

[Acoals]

From what I have seen OTR looks worse than dump trucking, but again, I am not in it.
Agree with Crane Op, I make my money with my excavator, the truck is mostly for dragging it around.