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[Nige]

It was a tragic case of "Who you think you are" conflicting with "who you really are"

We refer to it as "ambition outweighing ability".

 

[old-iron-habit]

Were never pressed to self thought or Self direction, see that more and more of late. Everything was handed to them or when they would steer into self thought were shut down to group think, not a good plan.

Schools only program. They do not teach children how to think and reason things out. It's a big failure of our education system.

 

[BigWrench55]

THINKING? but that's hard. It's a lot easier if you do it for me. Isn't there an app for that?

 

[Vetech63]

Isn't there an app for that?

If there isn't Ide be

 

[treemuncher]

Schools only program. They do not teach children how to think and reason things out. It's a big failure of our education system.

No analytical thinking. No more shop classes. Lots more gender pronouns. What a bunch of crap.

One of the best things that I ever heard from one of my professors while in college - "We can't teach you the solution to every problem but we can teach you how to approach every problem, rationally analyze it, apply the basic math to it and come up with solutions to the problems."

Another teacher at a night school machine shop class: "For those of you who do go on to become engineers, never forget the guys running the tools in the machine shop. You will NEVER be as smart or as talented in design as the tradesmen who try to make what you've drawn up. Ask them how they would build it - they will likely always have a better, more efficient solution than you will because it's what they do and they know their trade better than anyone else. Don't let that degree go to your head - it's just a piece of paper."

I was lucky. Life has given me a great education and I'm thankful for it every day but ambition has been much more important than that degree that hangs on my office wall.

 

[Midnightmoon]

Right on treemuncher! ! Ambition outweighs ability is the problem I'm having. Still not showing any retention of what I've been teaching him. Like every moving part with a pin will likely have a grease fitting. He greased a loader greased three pins and said it was done. Without me pointing to every fitting hes like a deer in headlights

 

[Vetech63]

Right on treemuncher! ! Ambition outweighs ability is the problem I'm having. Still not showing any retention of what I've been teaching him. Like every moving part with a pin will likely have a grease fitting. He greased a loader greased three pins and said it was done. Without me pointing to every fitting hes like a deer in headlights

LOL Keep up the good work!

 

[Muffler Bearing]

I think some fingers need to be pointed into the upper management office for some of these issues. Both dealerships I've been in hammer the techs on "Efficiency". It's efficiency above all else. A lot of techs find efficiency in leaving mess's, skipping diag and chucking parts at a problem, using one jack stand instead of two, or not replacing any of the zip ties and p clamps they removed.
Sometimes they post our efficiency as a bar graph. The same graph could also be titled "easiest jobs" with me and another guy always at the bottom.

In following company policy our guy simply found the most "efficient" way to get the top off a barrel.
Oh, yeah, I found out that was his intent.

 

[mekanik]

A family member who has a degree in psychology told me that people who
are good at working with their hands are good with "spatial relationships".
People who are not good with spatial relationships can be very good at with
other things in life. I suspect a lot of teachers are not good with spatial
relationships yet very intelligent people with the ability absorb and retain
knowledge.

 

[JD955SC]

I think some fingers need to be pointed into the upper management office for some of these issues. Both dealerships I've been in hammer the techs on "Efficiency". It's efficiency above all else. A lot of techs find efficiency in leaving mess's, skipping diag and chucking parts at a problem, using one jack stand instead of two, or not replacing any of the zip ties and p clamps they removed.
Sometimes they post our efficiency as a bar graph. The same graph could also be titled "easiest jobs" with me and another guy always at the bottom.

In following company policy our guy simply found the most "efficient" way to get the top off a barrel.
Oh, yeah, I found out that was his intent.

We have one of those guys. Lauded as a “great mechanic” yet he has tons of comebacks or if you work on a machine after him what he did is always screwed up in some way or at the least not done to proper professional standards.

I personally don’t care about my efficiency rate I am concerned with doing the repair properly so I don’t have to do it twice or it causes damage. I don’t stand around talking all day or trying to hide from the bosses I just work. If they want to fire me for being slow let them I’ll work somewhere else that appreciates me in that case.

 

[Mike L]

Nobody has time to do it right, but can always find time to do it twice.

 

[Vetech63]

Its always my way. Sort of like when I'm driving.....everyone driving slower than me is a moron....everyone driving faster is a psycho.

 

[CM1995]

Its always my way. Sort of like when I'm driving.....everyone driving slower than me is a moron....everyone driving faster is a psycho.

Anyone driving slower than me in the fast lane is a moron and anyone on my bumper in the fast lane has bigger cojones or better insurance than I do.

 

[Vetech63]

Speaking of driving.......my wife is the worst. She hates traffic and can become Satan when stalled in traffic. Its nothing for her to reach over from the passenger seat to lay on the horn, or give the one finger salute. She will gripe about me being too patient. Sometimes I look over at her after some simple traffic confrontation like she is a 16 year old girl. I just give her the ole eye roll and laugh.

 

[Nige]

Speaking of driving.......my wife is the worst. She hates traffic and can become Satan when stalled in traffic. Its nothing for her to reach over from the passenger seat to lay on the horn, or give the one finger salute. She will gripe about me being too patient. Sometimes I look over at her after some simple traffic confrontation like she is a 16 year old girl. I just give her the ole eye roll and laugh.

You’re not married to my wife are you by any chance.?

 

[CM1995]

So my wife has 2 other sisters I don't know about??

 

[thepumpguysc]

When given the chance to train someone, I tell them on the very first day that they need to show up tomorrow with a notebook and lots of pens... There’s just to much info to remember, ESPECIALLY if ur coming in w booze on ur breath.!!

 

[aighead]

We train a lot of people at my job and if you are brand new the things we do, for factory work, are extremely foreign to everyone. I'm a huge fan of taking notes. We have great process books that tell you how to do stuff but most people don't remember things until they take notes for themselves.

As far as reaching over and honking for me, I'll have none of that!

 

[John C.]

My wife will pull up behind a semi and stay there no matter how slow that trucker moves. If I make a suggestion to go around and gain some visibility, she will ask if I want to drive. I told her one last time that I would like to finish this two hour drive today sometime and she got mad. Now I get to do all the driving.

As far as taking notes goes, I remember something I put my hands on. The memory becomes set in stone if I bark some skin off while doing it.

 

[Welder Dave]

I sure wish someone would have told me to never use your bare hand to hold a fitting flush inside a tank when tacking it in place. I'm pretty sure I know what it feels like to have a lightning bolt go through your thumb. I sure wish the guy I was working with would have told me instead of laughing his a$$ off and telling me after the fact. May the fleas of a thousand camels invest his armpits!