Why Are Auction Prices on TS14G's Much Lower Than 627G's

[Abscraperguy]

Why are auction prices on newer Terex TS14G's much, much lower than the comparable Cat 627G's? Is it the Cat mentality? Is the Terex such an inferior machine that compared to the Cat almost new ones with under 5000 hrs bring half to a third of the same machine with a Cat badge? Here are 2001-2005 TS14G's and 627G's that have sold at auction in the last 200 days starting with lowest prices at the top of the column and rising as you scroll down for each model.


YEAR MANUFACTURER MODEL S/N PRICE (US $) LOCATION
2001 TEREX TS14G S7901053 US $42,500 OH
2001 TEREX TS14G Auction: 4/12/2011 In Cleveland, Ohio; 3,308 Hours; cab,29.5R25;
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2001 TEREX TS14G S7901054 US $42,500 OH
2001 TEREX TS14G Auction: 4/12/2011 In Cleveland, Ohio; 3,996 Hours; cab, 29.5R25;
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2001 TEREX TS14G S7901045 US $54,536 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; cab,29.5x25; (Price entered as 52,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2000 TEREX TS14G S7901025 US $54,536 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; cab,29.5x25; (Price entered as 52,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 TEREX TS14G S7901096 US $69,574 AB, CN
Auction: 3/10/2011 - 3/11/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 2,343 Hours; cab,29.5x25; (Price entered as 67,500 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2005 TEREX TS14G S8531014 US $70,334 AB, CN
Auction: 4/13/2011 - 4/14/2011 In Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada; Cummins,cab,29.5R25; (Price entered as 67,500 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 TEREX TS14G S7901097 US $72,150 AB, CN
Auction: 3/10/2011 - 3/11/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 4,473 Hours; 29.5x25; (Price entered as 70,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2005 TEREX TS14G S8531013 US $83,359 AB, CN
2005 TEREX TS14G Auction: 4/13/2011 - 4/14/2011 In Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada; 5,395 Hours; cab,Cummins,29.5R25; (Price entered as 80,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2004 TEREX TS14G S7981139 US $92,765 AB, CN
2004 TEREX TS14G Auction: 3/10/2011 - 3/11/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; cab,29.5R25; (Price entered as 90,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 TEREX TS14G S7901101 US $92,765 AB, CN
Auction: 3/10/2011 - 3/11/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; cab,29.5R25; (Price entered as 90,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS


2004 CAT 627G CAT00627GACEX00482 US $138,408 AB, CN
Auction: 12/9/2010 - 12/10/2010 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 11,948 yd3 Capacity; push/pull,cab; (Price entered as 140,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2001 CAT 627G CAT0627GEAXF00517 US $155,000 MD
Auction: 6/7/2011 In North East, Maryland; 7,204 Hours; A/C,cab,cushion hitch;
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2001 CAT 627G CAT0627GEAXF00534 US $163,416 AB, CN
Auction: 5/3/2011 In Calgary, Alberta, Canada; (Price entered as 155,000 CAD);
CPA-Canadian Public Auction

2005 CAT 627G CAT0627GACEX00580 US $165,000 AZ
Auction: 4/29/2011 In Phoenix, Arizona; 5,568 Hours; push/pull,A/C cab,33.25x29;
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GECEX00275 US $170,000 MN
Auction: 12/14/2010 In Minneapolis, Minnesota; push/pull,ret,A/C cab,33.25x29;
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2004 CAT 627G CAT0627GECEX00440 US $177,500 MN
Auction: 12/14/2010 In Minneapolis, Minnesota; 10,175 Hours; push/pull,ret,A/C cab,33.25x29;
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GPCEX00278 US $178,291 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 9,576 Hours; push,pull,cab,bale hook; (Price entered as 170,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GKAXF00703 US $179,231 AB, CN
Auction: 5/3/2011 In Calgary, Alberta, Canada; 8,457 Hours; 33.25R29 tires; (Price entered as 170,000 CAD);
CPA-Canadian Public Auction

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GTCEX00280 US $180,913 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 10,084 Hours; push,pull,cab,bale hook; (Price entered as 172,500 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GHCEX00243 US $180,913 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 9,122 Hours; push,pull,cab,bale hook; (Price entered as 172,500 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GVCEX00240 US $180,913 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 9,258 Hours; push,pull,cab,bale hook; (Price entered as 172,500 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GJAXF00704 US $187,138 AB, CN
Auction: 5/3/2011 In Calgary, Alberta, Canada; 8,707 Hours; push bar,33.25R29; (Price entered as 177,500 CAD);
CPA-Canadian Public Auction

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GAAXF00724 US $212,376 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 6,878 Hours; push,pull,cab,bale hook; (Price entered as 202,500 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GLAXF00725 US $241,217 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 6,284 Hours; push,pull,cab,bale hook; (Price entered as 230,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GLCEX00287 US $241,217 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 6,335 Hours; push,pull,cab,bale hook; (Price entered as 230,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2003 CAT 627G CAT0627GACEX00286 US $249,083 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 6,657 Hours; push,pull,cab,bale hook; (Price entered as 237,500 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2005 CAT 627G CAT0627GCCEX00567 US $249,083 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 8,528 Hours; cab,33.25R29; (Price entered as 237,500 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2005 CAT 627G CAT0627GPCEX00569 US $249,083 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 7,520 Hours; push,pull,cab,bale hook; (Price entered as 237,500 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2005 CAT 627G CAT0627GHCEX00565 US $251,705 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 6,968 Hours; push/pull,cab,bale hook,; (Price entered as 240,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2005 CAT 627G CAT0627GDBD00294 US $260,000 CO
2005 CAT 627G Auction: 6/7/2011 In Denver, Colorado; 7,307 Hours; push/pull,A/C cab,33.25x29;
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2005 CAT 627G US $283,168 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 4,862 Hours; push/pull,cab,bale hook,33.25R29; (Price entered as 270,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

2005 CAT 627G CAT0627GPCEX00572 US $283,168 AB, CN
Auction: 4/27/2011 - 4/29/2011 In Edmonton, Alberta, Canada; 5,492 Hours; push/pull,cab,bale hook,; (Price entered as 270,000 CAD);
RITCHIE BROS AUCTIONEERS

 

[Aussie Leroy]

I suppose you have to ask, how much $ new is a TS14G and a 627G.

 

[rare ss]

gives a good indication on the better machine IMO

 

[griffon02345]

The 627G has two engines. One in the front and another in the back. The TS14G has only got a single engine in the front. I think the CAT 621G would be a better comparison to the TS14G.

Dave

 

[griffon02345]

The 627G has two engines. One in the front and another in the back. The TS14G has only got a single engine in the front. I think the CAT 621G would be a better comparison to the TS14G.

Dave

Nevermind that. I miss-read the spec log I think. They both have 2 engines, but the engines on the 627G are larger than the TS14G. The 627G is also a 22 yd^3 scraper vs the TS14G which is a 14 yd^3 scraper.

 

[Abscraperguy]

Nevermind that. I miss-read the spec log I think. They both have 2 engines, but the engines on the 627G are larger than the TS14G. The 627G is also a 22 yd^3 scraper vs the TS14G which is a 14 yd^3 scraper.

According to RichieSpecs the TS14G has a combined 352 HP and a 20 yard cap. And the 627G has 684 HP with 22 yard cap. The 621G with 393 HP and 22 yard cap is a better comparison like you said earlier.

 

[SE-Ia Cowman]

I dont know much about terex scrapers but I recall looking at one at a auction last year and it was not an ejector it was more of a carryall type dump system. I dont think it was a g model but it was a ts14.
are all the terex carry all scrapers or were these some special order pans?? and if they are carryall models how well do they unload?

 

[RDG]

The TS 14s had bowl/floor the was sorta rolled forward and lifted to empty the load rather than push it out like the cat way.

 

[wnydirtguy]

the ts14 floors lift up to eject the load. uses a s cam looking setup. work well loading and dumping. if it is wet clumpy material that ends up a big clump in the bowl it can be a pain to dump. we have a bunch of TS14 A,B,and a C models. would love to try a new one.

 

[Showpony]

Hi Abscraperguy TS14Gs and some of their owners here in NZ seem to be having more than their share of issues, used machines have been sitting waiting for buyers for some time, on the other hand older TS14s and 627s never sit for long.
The 627 is more popular and you are getting quite a bit more in terms of power, weight and capacity
The TS14g looks a lot more bang for your buck, but you get what you pay for.
The main point here is Cat do a great job of promoting what they sell.

 

[Aussie Leroy]

Showpony; Your right you do get a bit more with the CAT 627G than the TS14G. More weight 10 tonne more to pump the soft ground up (also you need a bigger float), More power (more fuel useage per hour), And capacity 2 yrds more i don't think thats a big enough difference ,because you get the same hourly $ rate with 627 or TS14 both rated at 20 yrds. Now this post does not mean i don't like cats 627s I DO it just means in my area how can you justify a machine more than double the price to earn the same money hourly rate. and with the resale price if you don't pay it up front you don't have to get it at the other end ie;when you sell. Leroy

 

[vapor300]

LOL You really think 2 TS14's are moving the same amount of dirt as a pair of 27's??? ointhead

 

[qball]

been on jobs with both. the 627's are nicer to run, but the 14's seem to get more done.

 

[Showpony]

LOL You really think 2 TS14's are moving the same amount of dirt as a pair of 27's??? ointhead

If the guys on the 27 have a bad case of yellow feaver and the 14s are just doin it, then the 14s probably will.LOL

 

[vapor300]

If you have qualified operators on each pair then there is no way. 27's have more power which means load faster, and heavier and will get up and go faster, which means faster cycle times! And if you do get into softer material the 27's will be able to run threw it in a higher gear. The only was the TS14's have the 27's beat is in fuel consumption

 

[qball]

i have seen 627's pulled off jobs many times and replaced with 14's. around here the ground just won't often support a loaded '27 without pushing it to and fro.

 

[white-elephant]

1.) Reliability - IMHO Cat makes a better product. Rebuild a Cat with 20,000 hrs. on it and you have a good Cat. Don't try that with a Komatsu. 2.) Parts availability - Cat parts are universally available and in most cases, next day - same day 3.)Most mechanics agree that it is easier to work on Cat's than most other products. I used to think other manufacturers made replacement parts that were less expensive, but after talking to a guy who own Deere dozers, I changed my tune. Remember, if it's down, it won't make you a dime. Operators either.

 

[qball]

1.) Reliability - IMHO Cat makes a better product. Rebuild a Cat with 20,000 hrs. on it and you have a good Cat. Don't try that with a Komatsu. 2.) Parts availability - Cat parts are universally available and in most cases, next day - same day 3.)Most mechanics agree that it is easier to work on Cat's than most other products. I used to think other manufacturers made replacement parts that were less expensive, but after talking to a guy who own Deere dozers, I changed my tune. Remember, if it's down, it won't make you a dime. Operators either.

well, cat does make a great machine. terex ts-14's are not cats. they do, in fact, compete favorably with them when the going gets soft. as for quality, there are many. MANY '14's running around here. a decent wrench can keep a fleet of them running fairly easily. i have seen front engine/trans swaps done in the cun in under a day.

 

[Showpony]

If you have qualified operators on each pair then there is no way. 27's have more power which means load faster, and heavier and will get up and go faster, which means faster cycle times! And if you do get into softer material the 27's will be able to run threw it in a higher gear. The only was the TS14's have the 27's beat is in fuel consumption

Vapour That would be generally considered true, especially in harder going the extra weight of the 27 is going to be a big advantage when loading.
BUT in soft going and climbing the lighter 14 is going to steal the march,
the 14 has an advantage on manouverability, as well
I think the 27 is a better stand alone machine.
The TS14 would be better in a fleet of 3 or more either push pulling or with a pusher.
Does anyone know the lb/hp of these machines?
This should verify the superior performance of the 627.
Does any one know the Hp/ gallon (US)/ hour of these machines?
This should verify the TS14s superior economy.

 

[WabcoMan]

TS-14's, especially earlier models, are CHEAP TO RUN.
TS-14A, B, C do not have the sophistication that 627's have and consequently are EASIER TO WORK ON AND FIX.
They will work in ground conditions which would bog a 627 to the axles as they have a lighter footprint.
On the downside, the ride is rougher and sticky clay will build up in the curve of the bowl floor.
TS-14's are a cheap and reliable earthmover and have a place in the earthmoving spread.

The WabcoMan (with over 4000 hours seat time on various TS-14's)