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American Independent's wall of shame.

2stickbill

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I have a feeling this D10 final met the same fate. :duh

Well it looks like some of his work. This same seat warmer run a D6H till six rollers and the Idler bearing were gone.Tracks were trying to lock up they were so bad.But he didn't notice a thing.
 

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This is comical to say the least!
But one thing I have to wonder, Is it all operator abuse, or where some of the failures due to the master mechanic saying "Aww, its all right, you stupid operators woudlnt know if anything was wrong with that machine!"
Or the superindentant screaming "Keep on running it, *&^% the mechanic, we need to get this mountian moved!"
 

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Yeah, I don't know what the situation was. But it seems like any person with half a mind would know to stop at a certain point, and these gears are well beyond that point. The only explanations I see for these gears getting this far are pure stupidity or sabotage.

I can't imagine how the ring gear would not have single tooth left. Seriously, how long did they hold down the throttle just to have the tractor periodically lunge forward a few inches every once in a while? :confused:

The real tragedy is not only did they ruin second speed, they ruined the rest of the powertrain.
 

2stickbill

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This is comical to say the least!
But one thing I have to wonder, Is it all operator abuse, or where some of the failures due to the master mechanic saying "Aww, its all right, you stupid operators woudlnt know if anything was wrong with that machine!"
Or the superindentant screaming "Keep on running it, *&^% the mechanic, we need to get this mountian moved!"

Well on my job the seat warmer aka operator all ways blamed the last to operate machine.Thing was he had his head so far up the bosses behind they believed him.
 
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EGS

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This is comical to say the least!
But one thing I have to wonder, Is it all operator abuse, or where some of the failures due to the master mechanic saying "Aww, its all right, you stupid operators woudlnt know if anything was wrong with that machine!"
Or the superindentant screaming "Keep on running it, *&^% the mechanic, we need to get this mountian moved!"

Kind of what I was thinking.
 

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I was sent out with a snowplow one day and the engine made a strange ticking sound... I took it back to the shop only to have the "mechanic" there tell me that it was just a valve tappet making that noise and to get back out there. So I went back out and the noise got worse. Brought the truck back, he insisted it was just a valve tappet but then alluded to the fact that the truck had lost all it's oil a few days before. I told him I'd park it and take a loader to carry on but he insisted I take the truck back out there. Shortly there after the noise became a loud rattle and the truck lost all oil pressure. I called dude guy on the radio and told him the engine is toast! He was baffled, couldn't understand why! A few weeks later an almost brand new snowplow truck came in where the functions would just randomly do something unexpected. These were electric over hydraulic controls but our same genius "mechanic" decided the problem was the hydraulic fluid so he put in a jug of hydraulic oil conditioner and sent the truck on it's way. A brief time later the driver came on the radio saying the truck box went up all on it's own and the only way he could stop it was to shut down the truck. Turns out the wiring harness had chaffed somewhere and caused the valves to receive sporradic signals thus making the truck seem like it had a mind of it's own...
 

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Just got this one last week! This is the rotating clutch carrier out of a 621E transmission. The planetary shaft actually ground it's way completely out of the carrier. That gear is about 25% shorter than its supposed to be but the bore is about 25% larger. :laugh
 

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This is comical to say the least!
But one thing I have to wonder, Is it all operator abuse, or where some of the failures due to the master mechanic saying "Aww, its all right, you stupid operators woudlnt know if anything was wrong with that machine!"
Or the superindentant screaming "Keep on running it, *&^% the mechanic, we need to get this mountian moved!"


Many of my boss's favorite words after my suggestion of this not being the best tool for the job.

"Well this is what we have to do the job so make it work."
"You can do it your a good operator "
 

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lol "the wall"

Amerindependent, you gotta love those seat warmers mate. Their gonna put your kids thru college.:D
You'll have to get a bigger wall.
Just curious, any owner/operator fallout there or just by dudes that don't have to sign the cheques but hold their hand out @ the end of the week.
Seen guys down here break stuff, run it out of fuel etc so they could go home early or go do their own thing whilst still getting paid for the day.
When I went out on my own back in 2000 my old employers advice was "stay a one man band and you'll do O.K. when u become an employer people don't respect your gear, not to mention workers comp, super etc will kill u.
Good advice.:drinkup
 

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I don't know all the politics of it but we almost never see these types of failures with owner operator’s. :beatsme
 

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This one isn't a mechanical failure, but a mechanic failure.

Here's the story:

We sold a dozer transmission to a customer back east. They called us and said they couldn't use it because the housing was cracked. They sent us the following pictures. We were surprised that something that obvious would get past so many people but couldn't argue with the photos so we tucked our tail between our legs and arranged for it to be shipped back to us.

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We got it back and immediately noticed that it didn't look much like a crack, but more of a scratch. We got out our penetrant and confirmed it wasn't a crack. Then we started wondering how the mark got there and called the customer back:

"Sir, this housing isn't cracked. I think you're mechanic scratched it with a razor blade while removing the plastic covering."

Needless to say, we were relieved of all blame.
 

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We have moved on and now were lost....
A Homer Simpson moment I think
:lmao:cussing DOH
 

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Haha thats funny kind of a strange place for a "crack"
 

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Haha thats funny kind of a strange place for a "crack"

That's exactly what we thought when they told us, but figured "I guess that's how we missed it, who would think to check there?" :lmao

And another thing is, usually cracks start at a corner/edge, bolt hole, or something like that- this "crack" basically started and ended in the center of a virtually flat part.
 
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