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    Butler Brothers logging trucks

    Hopefully the archive can be preserved. Doug1966 suggested all 3 of the top places. The Forest Museum would be my top pick if any parts of the actual trucks could be retrieved since they have the space. One other consideration for this might be the Saanich Historical Artifacts Society 'Heritage...
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    MacMillan Bloedel Ltd. Red & White Iron, Past and Present....

    Thank you Camptramp and Gordy I. I'm guessing they were not too successful since they were so rare. Also guessing they suffered from the same issues that the Euclids did with the single drive axle. Any idea how many made it into BC? Thanks again, the wealth of information (not to even...
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    MacMillan Bloedel Ltd. Red & White Iron, Past and Present....

    Re post#978: Anyone know the make of truck being loaded under the heel boom? Looks like a CBE cab type. I haven't seen anything like it on here before. Just wondering.
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    British Columbia Forest Products Ltd.

    Wow, that smaller blue and white tug brings back memories. Not sure of the name of the company - perhaps Warren Tug and barge - but they were based right across from the old BCFP mill on the Gorge Waterway - Selkirk waters. They were pretty much the harbour boom handling fleet at the time. When...
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    Butler Brothers logging trucks

    Oooops, small mistake. Mike Dougan was Dave's son, not his brother.
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    Butler Brothers logging trucks

    HDX - good eye. Yes, i believe it is the Madill truck, the planetaries are the big giveaway. Also, a couple of other less obvious signs are the windshield - its rectangular instead of square (the first BB truck had a square one) and the front cab vent is horizontal instead of vertical. But it is...
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    Fire Suppression - Boomer's , Heli's , Tanker's , Trucks, ect

    Looks like I should have researched much further before rambling on. I don't like propagating erroneous history, apologies to all. So, it looks like the great photos that started this are of the Philippine Mars - the side discharge as Jackd noted. Marianas had crashed a year earlier...
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    Fire Suppression - Boomer's , Heli's , Tanker's , Trucks, ect

    Oh my, I should check things further. I'm thinking now the Marianas never did get the red and white as stated in the book. There are some other errors too, as I've been finding out. The book says the Marianas crashed in 1960 when in fact it was 1961. I've also seen a reference to the Caroline...
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    Fire Suppression - Boomer's , Heli's , Tanker's , Trucks, ect

    M4 hst conversion Here are a couple of photos of a converted M4 High Speed Tractor into some form of firefighting equipment, looks like a pump and hose unit. A friend took them in the early 60's but not sure exactly where. Most likely Shawnigan lake or Cowichan lake. Maybe someone on here...
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    Fire Suppression - Boomer's , Heli's , Tanker's , Trucks, ect

    Jack'd: I'd be interested in finding out if my ramblings are accurate. I took them from a couple of sources but first hand info is always better. I seem to remember hearing something long time ago about the dark blue being hot as well. Perhaps one of them flew in the original paint...
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    Fire Suppression - Boomer's , Heli's , Tanker's , Trucks, ect

    I've done a little further reading and have some more info. According to the Coulson book, which is a reprint of Steve Ginter's 1995 book with added Coulson shots, as well as a website dedicated to old aircraft history, the Caroline was converted in 1961, placed in service for the 1962 fire...
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    Fire Suppression - Boomer's , Heli's , Tanker's , Trucks, ect

    Just checked with Coulson's Mars book. If it was July 1962, it was the Caroline Mars. She was modified in a rush after the Marianas crash and was the only one flying until she was destroyed on the ramp at Pat Bay by hurricane Frieda in the winter of 1962. The Hawaii and Philippine were modified...
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    Need Help From BC Old Snags

    The only other ship I've seen reference to is the MV Fort Ross. I have no idea what she looked like. I'm looking through my S.C. Heal books on coastal BC tugs etc. and that name comes up working for CIL.
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    Need Help From BC Old Snags

    Not sure if its the same one in your photo but the MV G.B. Church was used for hauling explosives all over the local area. She was originally the MV Cerium I believe, built in the UK. The GB Church was sunk in 1991 for an artificial reef off of Sidney and is a popular dive spot.
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    "Back in the Day"

    Well, here's another possibility, perhaps one closer to home for this truck. From what I understand, T.A. Peterman (Peterbilt) bought the Fageol truck company in the late 30's and began building custom heavy duty chain-drive logging trucks for his operation. Apparently they were popular and he...
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    "Back in the Day"

    Hey trakloader, please fire me a PM. Been trying to email you but keep getting bounced - perhaps you've changed email addresses? Good one on this truck. I've been intrigued by it ever since I saw it in a photo taken during its days in Hope. I've done some looking around and while my first...
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    Butler Brothers logging trucks

    Hi Alco, glad to share the history. Much like you, I was in awe the first time I saw one of these. I was a kid watching the Victoria Day Parade and this absolute monster truck, something I'd never seen before, came down the street. Its one thing to have seen these in the bush or around other...
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    Butler Brothers logging trucks

    Sounds good to me. Just need to get her out of the bush and back home to the island. As you mentioned in an earlier post she is still restorable, excellent restorations have been done with much less to start with. Hopefully she can be acquired and transported. Wonder if any of the guys up your...
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    Butler Brothers logging trucks

    Its good to see this thread active again. Here is a bit of a summary of the info I've gathered on these trucks. Some of it is unfortunately a bit of guesswork and assumption but i think most of it is fairly correct. There were, to the best of my knowledge, 4 trucks built. They were...
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    Kenworth Thread for 848--849--850

    Oh my, what a fine truck. It must be preserved at all costs and certainly not 'street-rodded' with new parts. Until this example showed up i was unaware of any 888 in existence. I second your comment trakloader - don't change anything on that truck. Its too special to mess with and if that...
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