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working week hours

chris-law

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in you're part of the world how many hours do you work on an average week , also what is the minimum contracted hours your employer must pay you.

my minimum is 40 hours if there is no work or 50 if I'm on a job(10 per day).
I probably average 60 hours a week
 

landrvrnut22

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Minimum 40, no maximum, I am salary.

However, I typically work 50-60 hours a week. While the rest of the company works 40, 8 and skate, as I call it. Must be nice.
 

chris-law

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Why would or should you get paid for not working?
:cool:

if the outfit you are working for has no work for your machine and they expect you to be loyal to them, they cant expect you to sit at home for no pay.

over here if your contract is full time the employer must pay you a minimum of 8 hours a day, granted they will only do that for a limited time before they lay you off, we get two thirds of our rate if we are sat at home with no hire to go to
 

alco

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I'm with RollOver Pete on this, why should you get paid for not working? I hardly see it as fair to the employer. I understand wanting to hang on to valuable people, but paying them for not working just doesn't seem right to me. I know it's not an issue for me now, but in the past, when we had slack time and still wanted to work, we could always find something to do maintenance wise on on or more of the machines or at the shop.

I work 6 twelve hour days, then get 6 days off now, so it's hard to beat my current setup. There also appears to be no end to it...as long as oil prices don't plummet to record lows that is.

Brian
 

MKTEF

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We got 37,5h pr week, 7,5h work time pr day.(+1/2h lunch)
Many work extra, but law regulates max extra per day, week, month and year.

In the Army they say each of us is working for two, to much work and to little employers.
So we get to much extra work, wife is not happy at all....
But then get a normal payment without extra time.....

Regarding work and pay;
You must show up at work every day, employer have to find work for u.
As Alco says, u might end up in the workshop if work is low.

If the firm is out of work totaly, you can be sent home with a written note that you are on "leave". Firm has to pay u for 2 weeks, then u are on unemployment wage payed by the state.
U have to register from day one as a workseeker.
And take any work given/offerred to you, if not u can loose your unemployment wage.
 
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chris-law

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I'm with RollOver Pete on this, why should you get paid for not working? I hardly see it as fair to the employer. I understand wanting to hang on to valuable people, but paying them for not working just doesn't seem right to me. I know it's not an issue for me now, but in the past, when we had slack time and still wanted to work, we could always find something to do maintenance wise on on or more of the machines or at the shop.

I work 6 twelve hour days, then get 6 days off now, so it's hard to beat my current setup. There also appears to be no end to it...as long as oil prices don't plummet to record lows that is.

Brian

dont get me wrong, its not regular to be sat at home, ill explain a little more.

we only have 10 machines, all long reaches ranging from 14m to 26m reach and 23 to 100 ton , so all specialist kit.

work can be anywhere in the uk so you are away from home all week

the company does not have a yard as such so there is no work to be done there during slack times

the office is 150 miles from my house, so going there to sit around waiting for a hire is not an option

so , put it like this if there is no work for a few days , he can either pay us full rate at 10 hours a day plus expenses and lodging allowance per day, or pay us two thirds pay on 8 hours a day and no lodge, which is half normal pay, which do you think he will prefer.

i have worked for him for a year now and sat at home paid for a total of 3 days,he has made some very good money but i would not expect him to give me an extra cut of his profits. swings and roundabouts
 

hammerdwn20

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we work 40 hour weeks with no minimum hours. overtime comes when there is an emergency
 

curly

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so if they had no work for the week you don't get paid


Correct! Now working at a rock pit it isn't a big deal unless we have 3 days of heavy rain, at which point we shut down because it's turned into a mud bog.

Rollover Pete- I agree and disagree. At one point I was Teamsters and we would get a guaranteed number of hours a day, so if there was no work we got something for our trouble. As an example where I am now had a paving job last saturday. It rained and after loading 9 trucks with hot mix they canceled the job because it was too muddy. The guys got up early on a saturday and only worked an hour and a half. Myself I'd be pissed about that considering they don't work weekends too much. Now say 40 hours pay for not one thing done, then I see your point and agree fully. Myself I'd do what I could to get some hours, maybe even be a quarry rat at operator wages.;)
 

CascadeScaper

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I've been working almost 70 hours a week for the last 3 weeks. You gotta take the hours when you can, it's almost winter.
 

Dirtman2007

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Winter? In Seattle? You crack me up!:lmao

We had one of the coldest days in a long time for this time of the year today, only reached 70 degrees, had a couple cold chills:eek:

It was 90 two days ago:beatsme

But to stay on topic I usually work 40- 50 hours a week when I'm out of college.
 

qball

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our contract states. two hours show up, the contractor has till 10 pm to call you off or you show and get 2. once you turn a key you get 8 hours. that keeps contractors from screwing you with a bunch of half days. anything over 8 is time and a half or double, saturday is time and a half, sunday is double.
 

grunk36

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We got 37,5h pr week, 7,5h work hours pr day on contract but usually i work minimum 60 hours and up to 90 hours pr week when in the rental busines you have to hang in there when your on a job so the customer will choose you again next time
 

JDOFMEMI

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As a business owner I can't understand how to bid a job with enough "extra" in it to pay the employees when the work runs out. The work here is competitive in good times, and down right cutthroat when it is slow like this. We usually work for a fixed contract price, and to add enough to a job to cover this "employer sponsered unemployment" would pretty much insure I would be out of work.
The rental, or plant hire as you call it, companies get paid only for the hrs worked, and the contractor bids how many hrs it should take to do the job. Getting stuck paying for employees wages all day when the whether turns or something makes it hard to ever get ahead. I understand the employee is not at fault, but neither is the contrractor, and we can't get paid when we do not work.
I typically work people 40 hrs, but if it is busy, then as many as it takes, and if it is slow, then as many as we can.
Those that put forth extra effort usually get more, the ones that do just enough to get by always go home first, and usually wonder why.
 

CascadeScaper

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Winter? In Seattle? You crack me up!:lmao

I know, right? Can't figure out why the rain shuts everything down, but it does. Irritating for sure. I only have another week on the job I'm on now then I'm gone, hopefully I'll go somewhere else within the company. Boss is keeping senior journeymen for the remainder of the job to get them through the winter I guess. He said even then they might only work 3 days a week at times due to rain. Wish we could go full bore and run a full crew, but then by the time December rolls around, there wouldn't be any new work to start because everyone is paranoid of rain.
 
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curly

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I know, right? Can't figure out why the rain shuts everything down, but it does. Irritating for sure. everyone is paranoid of rain.


I sure don't miss that garbage. Was at a job in Issaquah a few years ago and the mud was so thick and deep I had a loader chained to the front and back of the semi so I could get in. 'Course they left me on my own to get down mud mountain!
 
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