I hear you scrub,&ronsii,thanks for your input. My project is to make a new cover/inlet for my excavator hydraulic filling plate. It is currently made from flat plate steel with a 180 degree tube this is bolted to the top of the holding tank, trouble being there is no ball valve or cap you ca remove to top up the fluid to the tank,you have to un-doo 10 bolts to top up everytime you need 2. (B.S.) I see you can buy filler tank butt pieces,with screwed caps which are for alloy tank applications on boat tanks im guessing,but noe in stainless-steel. I have a nice piece of stainless plate 8mm I want to use. looks like I might have to go alloy. thanks for replies.