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Wacker Neuson SW28

Okienative56

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Has anyone operated or been around the Wacker Neuson SW28 skid steer. How about any info on the Kohler 3.4 engine? I really like that it is a tier4 engine but requires no dpf filter. That's one less maintenance item to worry about.

Still searching for a skid steer for use around my hobby farm and saw that prices on the Wacker Neuson skid steers were really reasonable for late model, low hour machines. If anyone has any experience with these machines I would love to hear about it.
 

Txhayseed

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Never the skids but a lot of excavators/ rollers etc. Not a big fan of kohler diesels. Don't see them in much really other than whacker and gensets. Wacker is kinda like the ford escort of the equipment world. Its got 4 tires, starts and goes from point a to b then you park it out in the alley and forget about when it brakes down. The new and second hand market is not very strong for wacker. That's why they are cheaper on the used side. If you where just using it around your farm and took care of it and the price was right... Give it a go. Make sure you got a dealer at least in your state for parts at least.
 

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TX that maybe your perception of WN, but in my experience it is far from accurate. My experience with the company started when they started designing their SSL and CTLs. They hired an engineer from another major OEM that I had got to know from a customer clinic to run the project. When he was hired by WN, he asked me to come to Austria and provide input on the new machines. I did that. The machine manufacturing was then moved to Wi after the initial run. They hired additional engineer's from major oem's and created their current machines. They don't have the name recognition of brands we are more familiar with, but collectively are responsible for designing some of the machines that are iconic in the industry from other OEM's. The company is very impressive, and the team that designs these machines is also very impressive. They know how to build compact equipment. As for the Kohler engine, it is warrantied currently to 4k hours in their SSLs. If there is another engine OEM that has a standard warranty that is longer, I am not aware of it. I have been loaned them for a month at at time (the 75 horse machines) and was happy with them. I have not run their 100 hp machines, but would certainly like to. They are well built and well designed.

The downside is dealer support. There is not a WN dealer around every corner. My closest one that handles SSL's and mini excavators is 4 hours away. I could also discuss their mini excavator line, but perhaps another day. The short of the story, their products are not disposable. Take a look under the cab of their SSL and CTLs compared to everyone else's and you will see what I mean. They are not perfect, but I will say, very well done.
 

Okienative56

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I have 3 dealers here in Oklahoma. 75 miles is the closest, but a large dealer in Wichita, KS which isn't that far away. I'm not looking to make a living with the machine, just odd jobs around the place...building pipe fence, driveway maintenance, hauling round bales and unloading pallets of fertilizer. Thanks for the input so far!
 

Vetech63

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As for the Kohler engine, it is warrantied currently to 4k hours in their SSLs.
I'm curious about this. Last year I had a customer that the Kohler diesel in their Cat CC19 locked up at 841 hours. Cat of course said the 1 year warranty had expired so it ended up being a $6500.00 replacement.
 

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I don't have any information on what CAT's arrangement with Kohler is. However with WN, its 4 years/4K hours.
 

Txhayseed

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Im not sure how or why they went with kohler.. All the trench rollers, double drums and wheeled rollers before switching to bomag didn't have kohlers. Excavators also did not use kohler on the last batch we had. At that time only kohler/wacker was the dumpers. A lot of light towers from various companies had the kohlers. Both the towers and dumpers always seemed like they where just screaming. Idled like a pound of bolts in a dryer. On a commercial mower which seems like they where probably built with in mind before lpg became the rage... Sure I would say that's a good place for a kohler diesel. In a skid or ctl... Ehhhh just not what I want to see personally. Whacker used to the rental king, vib plates to rollers to rammers. The last two rental companies i have worked for completely phased out wacker. One was one of the big three. The last company was actually the wacker rental/ dealer/parts and service provider here. Don't see it nearly as much in the rental business as much as you used to. At least not in my neck of the world. End user in mind.. For how your planning on using it. It would probably do you well. I just don't particularly care for the brand myself.
 

Okienative56

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Well, I went and looked at a Kubota SSV75 skid today. That old saying about "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!" 2019 with 435 hours, two speed, enclosed cab and air for $32,000. The pics were not closeups. The machine came out of a fertilizer plant. Everything metal is rusted to hell. The belly pan is half packed with fertilizer still. It ran great but the steering control is very jerky. Is this common on the Kubota's?
 

Vetech63

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Well, I went and looked at a Kubota SSV75 skid today. That old saying about "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!" 2019 with 435 hours, two speed, enclosed cab and air for $32,000. The pics were not closeups. The machine came out of a fertilizer plant. Everything metal is rusted to hell. The belly pan is half packed with fertilizer still. It ran great but the steering control is very jerky. Is this common on the Kubota's?
Stay away from that one. Those fertilizer machines are not reliable at all.
 

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Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity on the Kubotas where they aren't so jerky? Cat has about the smoothest pilot controls I have ran.
 

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Yes you can tune the sticks to a certain degree. There is a degree in which you can adjust the response for the joy stick functions. Left/right forward/reverse and lift as well as tracking.
 

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I worked at a kubota dealer that also was a WN dealer. I'm not impressed with WN, alot of issues. Quality control is minimal at best and gets dumped on the dealer. All and all sure okay machine. I dont like electric over hydraulic. I would get a pilot control machine hands down. I've currently moved on and I'm at case now. Stay away from the case 370 but the 310 is a great machine and you can change control settings yourself on the b series. I've never changed control settings on a kubota skid and I dont believe you can. You can only calibrate it. Never had issues with drives except one that had a bad pump. It's all pilot and mechanical unless something changed this year you cant adjust controls it is what it is. WN you have to have the dealer change control settings
 

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I worked at a kubota dealer that also was a WN dealer. I'm not impressed with WN, alot of issues. Quality control is minimal at best and gets dumped on the dealer. All and all sure okay machine. I dont like electric over hydraulic. I would get a pilot control machine hands down. I've currently moved on and I'm at case now. Stay away from the case 370 but the 310 is a great machine and you can change control settings yourself on the b series. I've never changed control settings on a kubota skid and I dont believe you can. You can only calibrate it. Never had issues with drives except one that had a bad pump. It's all pilot and mechanical unless something changed this year you cant adjust controls it is what it is. WN you have to have the dealer change control

I'm not brand loyal, I'm just looking for a newer, mid to large frame skid steer (2012-2018). I would really like to find a Gehl V270 or V330 with pilot controls but there doesn't seem to be a lot available, used.
 

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Well, I believe I just bought a 2015 John Deere 328E. 2015 model with 1100 one owner hours. Hi flow and brand new tires. It's like a new machine...to me anyway. Comes with a set of forks and bucket.
 

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Has anyone operated or been around the Wacker Neuson SW28 skid steer. How about any info on the Kohler 3.4 engine? I really like that it is a tier4 engine but requires no dpf filter. That's one less maintenance item to worry about.

Still searching for a skid steer for use around my hobby farm and saw that prices on the Wacker Neuson skid steers were really reasonable for late model, low hour machines. If anyone has any experience with these machines I would love to hear about it.
CONSTRUCTION EDGE - WACO, Texas - very good Wacker dealership
 
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