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partsandservice

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I had one once that fooled me into thinking she was financially prudent. It seemed to go well for a while, I just worked and turned in my time. She did the books, invoicing, and banking. Then I started getting calls from my vendors wanting to know when I was gonna pay my bills. Turns out she was paying herself a couple grand a week instead of my vendors. So I go to the bank and try to take her off the accounts and they tell me I can't do that. No need to go into the whole saga but I now have an accountant and I am the only check signer and no credit or debit cards.
 

WCR73

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Was watching you tube channel of one of the independent mechanics, he is primarily AG guy. But started on Hyundai excavator.

It was sluggish - typical power shift/ EPPRV problem!
He was about to tell his customers to buy a new CPU for it because he was sure that what it was!!!
So I decided to help him and save his reputation, issue was time critical and I wasn’t sure he would read my comment on time, he has Facebook so I sent him a message that he needs to check more things before calling it computer, primarily RPM sensor. He was smart enough to come back and test it - turns out wire was corroded inside so bad that when he touched it and it fell off.


But get this: the only thing I got was brief mention while driving to that excavator “one of viewers told me this” not even “thank you man you helped me” on the Facebook messenger! I also made few tools suggestions and hints for CE he doesn’t know too much about - he is not even responding back.

He got popular, and people sent him expensive tools for free, complains about thumbs downs in you tube comments!
The nature of the human! Go figure!
Needless to say - unsubscribed!!!


I know the YouTube channel you’re talking about. Watch it all the time. I watch it regularly due to the fact that he’s about the only honest mechanic I’ve seen on YouTube. He’s a well rounded guy. Great skills. Honest. Thorough. So what if he’s better at AG equipment. Maybe he branched out on the hoe, but he got in there and got it done.

You came on this forum and started knocking him because he didn’t get on his knees and start sucking to thank you for your free tech advice that you gave VOLUNTARILY. Man, I thought this was a place for professionals. You sound like a giant baby. Your actions prove that. I don’t know Warren any better than you, but he sure as **** wouldn’t do what your doing.

I’ll be done, please Continue on with your narcissistic ways.
 

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I know the YouTube channel you’re talking about. Watch it all the time. I watch it regularly due to the fact that he’s about the only honest mechanic I’ve seen on YouTube. He’s a well rounded guy. Great skills. Honest. Thorough. So what if he’s better at AG equipment. Maybe he branched out on the hoe, but he got in there and got it done.

You came on this forum and started knocking him because he didn’t get on his knees and start sucking to thank you for your free tech advice that you gave VOLUNTARILY. Man, I thought this was a place for professionals. You sound like a giant baby. Your actions prove that. I don’t know Warren any better than you, but he sure as **** wouldn’t do what your doing.

I’ll be done, please Continue on with your narcissistic ways.

I might very well be all of that you mentioned above!
But you sounds like hysterical 16 year old girl who’s got a crush on singer!

“He’s about only honest mechanic I’ve seen on YouTube” - that’s a good one!!! Can you share what’s criteria are you using to determine honesty of mechanics on You Tube?!

Let me ask you something: did you actually read the thread and see the responses on this and related topic from people who’s been helping others on this forum and others for many years?!?! Or you just read the first post and got all pissy because someone ( and apparently not only one ) dare to criticize your “rock star” crush ?!?!
I have better question: how many people did you helped, taking your valuable time and share your hard earned knowledge and experience, with the thread all of the sudden go “dead” because OP got his fix and didn’t even care to come back and say “ it is fixed! Thanks everybody!”?
What do you know about that? Do you think we were born with all of that experience and knowledge that we do willing to share?!?!

If you would take time to read the thread you would see that your precious Warren was just another example in a bigger discussion!
 
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I give information I have locked in my old drying up brain as it pops up to statements from others, some times is scoffed away others it is accepted and used. All freely given where if they run with it and claim as their own I am a little less apt to return that favor again. The guy evidently had a need for more info, used a reference from another and claimed it as his own insight to which he will likely garner less support over time and he will show himself out for lacking not promising. Good luck to those types as generally is all they have left in short order.
 

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You came on this forum and started knocking him because he didn’t get on his knees and start sucking to thank you for your free tech advice that you gave VOLUNTARILY. Man, I thought this was a place for professionals.
Does the expression "giving credit where credit's due" mean anything to you..? Nobody knows everything and acknowledging the contirbution of others is nothing more than good manners.
 

TVA

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I give information I have locked in my old drying up brain as it pops up to statements from others, some times is scoffed away others it is accepted and used. All freely given where if they run with it and claim as their own I am a little less apt to return that favor again. The guy evidently had a need for more info, used a reference from another and claimed it as his own insight to which he will likely garner less support over time and he will show himself out for lacking not promising. Good luck to those types as generally is all they have left in short order.
To be totally honest he briefly mentioned that “some viewer told him”. I guess what pissed me off is other people get kinda lengthy praises ( specially the ones who sent him expensive tools for free) and recognition buy name, last name and place they are from. But the guy who saved his reputation, and his customer money - just get a brief mentioning. If it wasn’t for double standards - I wouldn’t care!
 
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About giving credit. The last one that didn’t turned out to be saga ( sorry Vetech63 :D ) with 315CL excavator, the senior guy was very good about doing work and following advice!
IMO!
 

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John C nailed it in the parallel thread!
For me not even a appreciation so important, as a knowing that problem that I had my part in solving is solved, and equally important finding out what was the problem, so I can put it in to my “experience” bank to pull it out later. It’s like mental pat on the back my self as a “job well done”!
The appreciation comes close second.
And even if me or someone else came up with idea which turned out to be wrong - it’s still a contribution, as Edison said, now we are one step closer by eliminating one more wrong thing! Or lead to right area to discover true reason for a maul function.
 
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kshansen

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John C nailed it in the parallel thread!
For me not even a appreciation so important, as a knowing that problem that I had my part in solving is solved, and equally important finding out what was the problem, so I can put it in to my “experience” bank to pull it out later.

I agree, it helps everyone in my opinion to know what works and to an equal extent what did not work!

Sure it might feel good to get a personal shout out saying "thanks Fred or Norm", but it is also good to hear just a blanket "Thanks guys! Every-ones help was great! And here is what the problem was in the end....!"

That way if three years from now a guy who never heard of this site till today when he was pulling his hair out with a problem does a search and stumbles on an old thread here that matches his problem he can learn what fixed it for someone else. And if that does happen it would be just common courtesy to me to reply to that old thread and say hello and thanks for helping me out. I know I would get a kick out of finding out some advice or a question I asked three years back helped someone today!
 

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The guy evidently had a need for more info, used a reference from another and claimed it as his own insight to which he will likely garner less support over time and he will show himself out for lacking not promising. Good luck to those types as generally is all they have left in short order.

I think that's generally true in an open debate like this forum. However, on YouTube, the conversation is pretty much one sided, and the person making the video can frame things the way he chooses. It kind of curbs the natural selection process.

Normally, if you are not at the top of your game, you get knocked off by the competition. But, on YouTube, all that matters is views. Being a total screw up often gets you more views than folks who quietly do the job correctly. It's the same as "reality" TV. People want drama or something. They don't have patience for simple, competent work.

You take a guy like Onelonelyfarmer or ChuckE2009 for example. Those guys don't claim to be pro mechanics, but I absolutely cringe when I see them working on any kind of equipment. But, they are very popular. They have a long string of bullshit and a "I can do anything with no training, no information, and experience" attitude. I guess that makes you an internet hero.
 

kshansen

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I've always called them zombie thread's totally inactive for 2 or 3 years then all of a sudden someone replies like it was just yesterday

I think I've been caught that way myself. Someone new will see and reply to a post and then it pops up on my screen and I don't notice that the original post date is Oct 3 2009 or such! then I wonder why the guy is not answering my questions.

I could probably get to be a pain by going back and finding old posts with little or no replies and just start replying to them:D Like this one:

https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/threads/930-cat-parts.4278/

That one's from October of 2007 and got zero replies!
 
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ianjoub

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That way if three years from now a guy who never heard of this site till today when he was pulling his hair out with a problem does a search and stumbles on an old thread here that matches his problem he can learn what fixed it for someone else. And if that does happen it would be just common courtesy to me to reply to that old thread and say hello and thanks for helping me out. I know I would get a kick out of finding out some advice or a question I asked three years back helped someone today!
The problem with that is it takes time to register, create user name, wait for approval, etc... When I search google for a problem, read threads, and find a solution, I would say thanks if it was easy. When it is a hassle to do so, it goes unsaid.
 

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The problem with that is it takes time to register, create user name, wait for approval, etc... When I search google for a problem, read threads, and find a solution, I would say thanks if it was easy. When it is a hassle to do so, it goes unsaid.
True enough, I am just as "guilty" of that as anyone, however I believe what most others or at least I was talking about was how someone does take time to register on this or some other site and throws out a question and then after getting some replies or suggestions of things to check never come back saying if it was fixed or not.

Now I can understand that in some cases there could be a simple reason say the guy got run over by a beer truck and is i coma or the FBI confiscated his computer because of all the porn he was down loading. But I sure hope those kind of things are not happening to that many people!
 

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I would like to take a moment to thank TVA and several others who have given me feedback and advice. Some others fought back their own frustrations and tried, but specifically TVA, as he was able to see through my occasional ADD and see what I was trying to accomplish. He recommended a particular hydraulic valve for me to use with some other parts I gathered up. Worked like a champ.

Thank you.
 
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