Earljr3rd
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Currently my only piece is a ck3510. Built the retaining wall and my shop area. Above the wall I cut down 5-10 degrees to reduce the angle so my tractor can more safely access the area in the future. The retaining wall itself I shaved from about 45 degrees to 30 or less to improve stability of the rip rap. The tractor couldn’t scoop into the rip rap to load it so I hand loaded it and used the bucket to transport and place the stone. 20 tons of rip rap in the photo with the retaining wall. Have another 20 to install later when I feel like it. Prepped wall is about 200 ft long by 6 or so foot average height to give an idea of the dirt prep that went into it. At least 60 tons of crusher run at the base scooped and transported because the truck couldn’t get back there to dump in place.
As far as the shop area goes had an excavator rented and knocked the trees and stumps out of the way. Everything else was done with the ck3510. Cut the ditches and moved a bunch of dirt around. Transported 20 tons of sb2 to install my culvert and entrance. Now I think I can get the trucks in and dump in place so instead of transporting it 50-100 ft all I’ll really be doing is spreading with the bucket and box blade. Looking at another 100-200 tons of crusher run over the next week or two as I get time.
This project is wrapping up then it’s just general stuff on our 10 acre personal property. The reason I’m thinking about getting a back hoe is the 27 acre development in start. Goal is 10 to 20 short term rentals over the next 10 years. Just the land bridge to access the property is quoted at $5 plus materials, all trees and brush left on site in a pile for me to deal with. Have another 500 ft of road to install to get to what will be the first unit. Another 3 roads totaling between 2000-3000 ft. All roads will be 16 ft wide. Also will have several hundred ft of 8 ft wide driveways. 10-20 sites to be prepped plus the trenches for utilities to the units and foundations.
The more I type this out the more I feel better about deciding to go ahead and buy a back hoe and not try this with my ck3510 and a stump bucket and box blade. Impressive unit for what it is but feel like it would be taking a stick to a gun fight. Given enough time it could knock some of it out with reduced rental costs but the time and diesel savings of the full size hoe alone will be major.
So with all that said what should one expect for $10k-$15k? I looked at a $5k unit and figured I’d have another $5k in repairs and major down time rebuilding it. Figured if I spent $10k id still have $5k in repairs but probably much less down time to to less major repairs and more cylinder and hose type repairs. The unit I’m looking at is my friends 580c. I know the auction he got it from as a decade ago before I got into real estate I used to buy and resell equipment from the same auction. I looked the last sales quarter up and almost every back hoe sold for an average of $10k in a comparable year range of the 580c. My guess is he probably paid between $8k-$10k plus he hauled it and completed whatever repairs resulted in it being at the auction in the first place. He buy no means refurbs them but does fix any major issues. If a hose it ready to go any minute or a cylinder needs rebuilt really bad he addresses those things and generally gets it as work ready as possible for a 40 plus year old unit. He will also tell you it’s a 40 year old unit and anything can happen tomorrow after you buy it. I haven’t gone and seen it yet. I expect to see some slop in the bushings and some leaks but nothing major. He wants $12.5k for it and will deliver it to my job site 30 minutes away. I currently only have a tundra and my trailer only has tandem 3500s so that is another perk of buying from him as I save on hauler fees. Plus I can trust him. I’ve seen two 580c tlbs within two hours of me for 10k firm but since I can transport and I trust my friend the extra $2500 isn’t a big deal. My uncle used to work on stuff like this for a living and I have experience and tools as well so keeping it running is something I feel comfortable about. Looks a lot easier to work on than some of the older units also. For the price what you guys think? Not sure how much all that dirt work would cost, $30-$40k. Figure even with whatever surprise repairs it has I should be money ahead to plus I can sell the hoe, although I doubt I will. I’m always getting my self into projects like this….
As far as the shop area goes had an excavator rented and knocked the trees and stumps out of the way. Everything else was done with the ck3510. Cut the ditches and moved a bunch of dirt around. Transported 20 tons of sb2 to install my culvert and entrance. Now I think I can get the trucks in and dump in place so instead of transporting it 50-100 ft all I’ll really be doing is spreading with the bucket and box blade. Looking at another 100-200 tons of crusher run over the next week or two as I get time.
This project is wrapping up then it’s just general stuff on our 10 acre personal property. The reason I’m thinking about getting a back hoe is the 27 acre development in start. Goal is 10 to 20 short term rentals over the next 10 years. Just the land bridge to access the property is quoted at $5 plus materials, all trees and brush left on site in a pile for me to deal with. Have another 500 ft of road to install to get to what will be the first unit. Another 3 roads totaling between 2000-3000 ft. All roads will be 16 ft wide. Also will have several hundred ft of 8 ft wide driveways. 10-20 sites to be prepped plus the trenches for utilities to the units and foundations.
The more I type this out the more I feel better about deciding to go ahead and buy a back hoe and not try this with my ck3510 and a stump bucket and box blade. Impressive unit for what it is but feel like it would be taking a stick to a gun fight. Given enough time it could knock some of it out with reduced rental costs but the time and diesel savings of the full size hoe alone will be major.
So with all that said what should one expect for $10k-$15k? I looked at a $5k unit and figured I’d have another $5k in repairs and major down time rebuilding it. Figured if I spent $10k id still have $5k in repairs but probably much less down time to to less major repairs and more cylinder and hose type repairs. The unit I’m looking at is my friends 580c. I know the auction he got it from as a decade ago before I got into real estate I used to buy and resell equipment from the same auction. I looked the last sales quarter up and almost every back hoe sold for an average of $10k in a comparable year range of the 580c. My guess is he probably paid between $8k-$10k plus he hauled it and completed whatever repairs resulted in it being at the auction in the first place. He buy no means refurbs them but does fix any major issues. If a hose it ready to go any minute or a cylinder needs rebuilt really bad he addresses those things and generally gets it as work ready as possible for a 40 plus year old unit. He will also tell you it’s a 40 year old unit and anything can happen tomorrow after you buy it. I haven’t gone and seen it yet. I expect to see some slop in the bushings and some leaks but nothing major. He wants $12.5k for it and will deliver it to my job site 30 minutes away. I currently only have a tundra and my trailer only has tandem 3500s so that is another perk of buying from him as I save on hauler fees. Plus I can trust him. I’ve seen two 580c tlbs within two hours of me for 10k firm but since I can transport and I trust my friend the extra $2500 isn’t a big deal. My uncle used to work on stuff like this for a living and I have experience and tools as well so keeping it running is something I feel comfortable about. Looks a lot easier to work on than some of the older units also. For the price what you guys think? Not sure how much all that dirt work would cost, $30-$40k. Figure even with whatever surprise repairs it has I should be money ahead to plus I can sell the hoe, although I doubt I will. I’m always getting my self into projects like this….