Oxy-propane rosebud torch

[Shimmy1]

A few years ago, a local welder helped me remove a stuck pin. He pulled out a rosebud torch that ran off propane. It had a rectangular tip with about 10 holes in it. That torch put out more heat than anything I've ever seen. Anyone know what it is, and where a guy can get one? I drew a very crude pic of what it looked like.

 

[crane operator]

dominos?

 

[Shimmy1]

#facepalm

 

[crane operator]

Seriously, you can get a rosebud tip to a million BTU. zoro or grainger.

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[crane operator]

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[Shimmy1]

What do you put those on? I realize this seems like a silly question, but I've never been around anything other than a Victor or Smith torch body.

 

[skyking1]

I have a propane rosebud, those are handy. it's a little one for a victor.

 

[crane operator]

You can get the whole handle assembly, and/or depending on which body you have, you may be able to just get the tube portion that connects to your mixing handle.

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[crane operator]

Some manufacturers or style- you can't just change the tip, the tip is brazed to the tube portion, and you swap the tube/tip together.

 

[crane operator]

You can get acetylene or propane tips- they are different. Most guys use propane for rosebud applications because the gas is a lot cheaper.

 

[terex herder]

At least for cutting you will use twice as much oxygen, but oxygen is way cheaper than acetylene. Acetylene tank last month was 130 ft3, cost me $120.

 

[Labparamour]

I’ve also heard that drawing high volume from smaller acetylene cylinders can pull out the acetone…creating dangerous condition.
I’ve use the cutting head to heat but then bought oxy/propane setup for cutting and for rosebud tip

 

[crane operator]

For the really large rosebuds, you may have to go to 3/8" hoses to get enough flow.

Just for fun, and if you have one. You could try heating those scraper pins with a weed burner. Most are rated about half a million btu, and you wouldn't be running any oxygen.

You aren't going to get the concentrated heat like a rosebud, but maybe for your "night before" just heating the whole works up to get it to bust the rust, one of those might work. A lot of the thick wall pipe welders will use a weed burner for preheat.

 

[Shimmy1]

We tried one of those. Absolute waste of time. Preheating for welding only needs to be about 250-300°F, we were getting it up over 800°. It took two torches focusing on a narrow area to get those pins to move.

Obviously Victor isn't as readily available as this Harris stuff. They do make one up to 500k BTU. Maybe I should get a Harris body, and just have quick-connects? Here is the Victor head I found.

SÜA Heating Nozzle/Rosebud 15-MFN Replacement for 300 Series Victor Torch Handles. Oxy/Propane

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Ooops.....found a bigger one.

https://www.amazon.com/Victor-0323-0305-Professional-Heating-Nozzle/dp/B0029HM9BU

 

[Shimmy1]

Is the lack of arrestors the only difference between a 310 and 315 torch body?

 

[IceHole]

At least for cutting you will use twice as much oxygen, but oxygen is way cheaper than acetylene. Acetylene tank last month was 130 ft3, cost me $120.

Unless I don't have access to power and air, I use plasma for cutting, so much cheaper and I'm better with it.

I keep a small oxy/acetylene setup on hand for heating. I've maybe filled it 2 or 3 timesin 15 years.

 

[crane operator]

I think I would go for arrestors if I had my choice. My only experience with a flash back in a handle, was while running a rosebud. Its no fun.

I have no idea on the 310/315 and my old "know it all" guy at a welding supply shop retired.

 

[Shimmy1]

One thing I know for sure. I've been dreading getting those pins out for over 10 years. The pan I've had the longest had one pin replaced before I got it. After seeing that whole pin boss burned black, I had always wondered what we were going to do when the time came that the others needed pins, bushings, or cylinder repack. These 6 pins have given us a fair bit of a sense of accomplishment.

 

[Old Doug]

You can get the whole handle assembly, and/or depending on which body you have, you may be able to just get the tube portion that connects to your mixing handle.

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John Harris invented the cutting torch. My first summer out of High school my first paycheck i bought a new Harris torch set up . It was $140.00 just about what i made that week. I have had every part of it rebuilt at one time or another it was a very good thing to spend money on back 40 years ago. I use propane with it and have bought a rosebud and a bigger cutting only torch.

 

[AllDodge]

I got one a couple years ago after the 955 bucket ripped open on one end. Haven't used it since.

Don't use regular Oxy hoses with propane I bought another set, forget what type it is, HEF told me what I should use