Overload of the Day

[Truck Shop]

Most major highways date back to 50's 60's 70's.

 

[skyking1]

Most major highways date back to 50's 60's 70's.

Dad worked for PKW on I-90, I think the stretch between Ellensburg and Cle Elum. I have looked around and can't find any good history about that.
He also worked on I-82 across the ridges to east Selah, that was an epic earth moving job. He purchased a new 1968 Datsun pickup and put 60,000 miles on it doing that job, most of it in the dirt roads coming up out of the canyon over to the job.
They had at least one quad 9 on that job.

 

[HATCHEQUIP]

Someone correct me on this if they know something different. RR pays for their all of their own infrastructure "land, bridges, tracks, right of ways, ect" not the taxpayer. But you cant depend on the US's RR's to meet any kind of timeline, hence you have to have the trucks on the road. Alot of coast to coast should be on trains unless a critical timeframe like spoilage ect.

 

[Jumbo]

Someone correct me on this if they know something different. RR pays for their all of their own infrastructure "land, bridges, tracks, right of ways, ect" not the taxpayer. But you cant depend on the US's RR's to meet any kind of timeline, hence you have to have the trucks on the road. Alot of coast to coast should be on trains unless a critical timeframe like spoilage ect.

You are correct in your basic observations. It is much more complicated than that though.
The causes of these transportation woes date back to the Staggars Act of 1980 for the RRs and The Motor Carrier Act of 1980 for trucking. Hundreds if not thousands of PhD dissertations have been written about these two fiascos. Whole forests have been logged to create the paper for these dissertations.
I will leave it at that because HEF justifiably frowns on political pronouncements.

 

[cfherrman]

Originally us gave land to the railroads to pay for it, at least to connect the coasts with rr.

To ship by rail you have to truck to rail, rail to rail, then truck to location. It's a lot simpler to just hire 1 truck especially in sure your not saving very much by hiring out the rail.

The rail out here is in bad shape and needs a lot of work, they can't go very fast anymore because of soft spots in the rail.

 

[digger doug]

"A ton of freight, 640 miles, 1 gallon of fuel"

 

[cfherrman]

That number is probably the least useful number when figuring the cost of shipping by rail.

 

[digger doug]

That number is probably the least useful number when figuring the cost of shipping by rail.

IIRC it was on a TV advert for CSX a few years back.

 

[MarcusZ1967]

IIRC it was on a TV advert for CSX a few years back.

Yup.

 

[Truck Shop]

This mess went in just down the creek from me at Wallula---It went defunct in 2017,
operated 8 years I think. Huge cooler buildings setting idle.
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Union Pacific acquires 3 Railex properties, including Wallula

Union Pacific has acquired Railex LLC’s refrigerated and cold storage assets, including Wallula’s warehouse and supporting equipment.The deal, announced Jan. 3., includes two other Railex properties in Delano, California, and Rotterdam, New York. Financial terms weren’t disclosed.Railex, a...

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[DMiller]

Rail is nearing death currently, an estimate of 60% of the US Rail system is either abandoned or in RTT devolvement leaving fewer roadbeds to fewer major hubs and fewer still ports of dispersal. As to Truck to rail and truck from rail are speaking Apples to Oranges to Interstate freight. That requires Small trucks to major docks, to larger trucks to shuttle dock to dock to dock, then small truck to disperse said LTL freight, has not ever been One Truck Source to Delivery.

 

[crane operator]

Someone was a little peeved when they couldn't get their license renewed.

1 dead, 13 injured after stolen tractor-trailer crashes into public safety office

One person has died after a tractor-trailer was intentionally crashed into a public safety office.

www.ky3.com

 

[kshansen]

Someone was a little peeved when they couldn't get their license renewed.

1 dead, 13 injured after stolen tractor-trailer crashes into public safety office

One person has died after a tractor-trailer was intentionally crashed into a public safety office.

www.ky3.com

Just saw that on the nightly news. I hope they throw every thing they can at that guy and he never is allowed behind the wheel of anything more than a kids peddle car!

 

[digger doug]

Rail is nearing death currently, an estimate of 60% of the US Rail system is either abandoned or in RTT devolvement leaving fewer roadbeds to fewer major hubs and fewer still ports of dispersal. As to Truck to rail and truck from rail are speaking Apples to Oranges to Interstate freight. That requires Small trucks to major docks, to larger trucks to shuttle dock to dock to dock, then small truck to disperse said LTL freight, has not ever been One Truck Source to Delivery.

IIRC 85 trains a day run thru Erie, pa head both to NYC or chicago.
Lot's of containers.

 

[DMiller]

At one time RRs had Terminals in most every larger city, as in greater than 3000 population, now are lucky if have Six per States. Loads of CONEX and AUTORACK trains, see maybe one general freight of mix manifest boxcar, tanks, flats or spine cars and gondolas. Rest are Autorack, CONEX and Coal. Just few to any Refrigerated cars, not many basic freight consists of all boxcars. Gone too are the set out tracks at smaller cities for freight dispersal and small switch yards for bulk commodity handling as Local Grain elevators, those are all gone and trucking moving five to six trucks to one rail car worth.

Clay haul currently performing, places 180 truck loads in ONE river Barge, in a string of four to six to be sent to a lash up group of 12-24 barges sent down Mississippi to Memphis then be set out to be sent up Ohio or Kentucy rivers or on to Arkansas River as these will be to go of all places, Muskogee OK. DAL Tile.

 

[Truck Shop]

That's horse manure---Union Pacific will build track to any door, right across front yards, back yards.
Of coarse trucks have to deliver to rail docks. Imagine Amazon going total rail delivery. Rail is good
for commodity shipping at this point.
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americans are just a impatient lot----all this boils down to I want it and I want It Right F@cking
Now-----------it's what will get us in the end.

 

[Truck Shop]

Someone was a little peeved when they couldn't get their license renewed.

1 dead, 13 injured after stolen tractor-trailer crashes into public safety office

One person has died after a tractor-trailer was intentionally crashed into a public safety office.

www.ky3.com

I don't find that shocking, it's all part of what I said above.

americans are just a impatient lot----all this boils down to I want it and I want It Right F@cking
Now-----------it's what will get us in the end.

 

[Nige]

americans are just a impatient lot----all this boils down to I want it and I want It Right F@cking Now

and I always thought it was “I want it f’kin yesterday”…?

 

[Welder Dave]

I thought it was, I needed it yesterday but want it right f'kin now.

 

[cfherrman]

Union Pacific out here is in bad shape, they can barely go 45 is some spots and have to go slower. They need to replace probably the whole rail across the country