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Land clearing, to burn or not to burn

Discussion in 'General Industry Questions' started by joshbowling45, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. farmerlund

    farmerlund Senior Member

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    I stack green trees and leave them for 2 years. Than burn and bury whats left. sometimes if there is dead trees I can burn right away but normally they are green. No burning permits needed here. just need to be smart about the conditions around you. Burying a huge pile of brush and wood just settles and causes problems for years.

    ALWAYS I REPEAT, ALWAYS CALL FOR LOCATES. Don't trust someone when they say there is nothing out there. Land owners favorite saying is "I have lived here for 40 year and there is nothing dug in here." They always forget about the utility that was ran across there property 25years ago until you hit it. You will be done before you even get started if you hit something expensive to fix. Its easy to do online. takes me less than 10 minutes to do most of mine.
     
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  2. DMiller

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    Different counties in MO have different permit requirements, with any county with a volunteer FD it is a GOOD Thing to contact Well Ahead of Burn day and agreeable with them As that burn time as well not ever leaving a smoldering pile of burning whatever unattended. Have seen brush piles on farms smoldering for days before the fire either extinguished itself, was put out or was spread out to put out and buried.
     
  3. wrwtexan

    wrwtexan Senior Member

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    brush piles on farms smoldering for days before the fire either extinguished itself, was put out or was spread out to put out and buried.

    I can attest to that. I went into a pile to sift that had been burned for likely 2 months and halfway through the pile I had flames coming up beside me. The core can stay smoldering for a LONG time. I'm on a 2,500 acre bottomland cattle ranch and my site was down to dirt so no problems letting one completely burn out.
     
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  4. DIYDAVE

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    To each his own. I quoted Mowingman, while referring to the OP.

    As My grandfather usedta say, "you'd complain, if they hung you with a new rope!". ;)
     
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  5. joshbowling45

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    I have called dig right for the jobs that I have done this far, but I didn't know how it worked on jobs that were so spread out. Good to know.
     
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  6. Oldcatpusher

    Oldcatpusher Well-Known Member

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    All the suggestions sound complicated. I push the brush up with my dozer to the trackhoe which piles it as high as it can reach. If its green trees that I've pushed over in the last week I throw a tractor tire under it. Take a paper towel light it throw it on the edge and take a 3 gallon pump up sprayer full of diesel and start spraying the towel and tire. Poke it up once a day till its burnt down. I've had a fire going 3 months on my job. I love the huge clouds of white smoke green trees put off. I don't even call in a controlled burn. Just let it go.
     
  7. Oldcatpusher

    Oldcatpusher Well-Known Member

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    burn baby burn
     

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  8. Ronsii

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    While tires do work great!!! around here and many other places it's highly frowned upon(illegal) to use them.... so if you don't want the evidence in the pile make sure you thread a length of haywire through any tires that *might* happen to get in the pile ;) that ways you can retrieve the carcass(evidence) after the burn :)
     
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  9. joshbowling45

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    I've got a bead on a used gas powered fan for $200 and I also planned on getting a pump sprayer to soak with diesel and oil. Going to dig out a big trench with the trackloader and put the fan at one end. Then just continuely push into the trench with the fan going for the green stuff.
     
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  10. joshbowling45

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    Fellow Missouri man I see. Nice!
     
  11. Oldcatpusher

    Oldcatpusher Well-Known Member

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    Bias ply tires = no evidence.
     
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  12. Ronsii

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    Yes :) but unfortunately around here most all you find are SB's ;)
     
  13. jjhdozing

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    I do a lot of tree clearing jobs. Always, always cut the stumps off! Any dirt in the pile can ruin a fire so keep it as clean as possible. Stack all the trees the same way don’t just throw them in a pile and think that will work. I’ve redone jobs where contractors have done that and the farmer has wasted hundreds or a thousand dollars on fuel to get it to burn. As long as you stack them all in the same direction and keep pushing the pile so it’s as tight and the higher you can stack the pile the better. Not sure if you have an Excvator with thumb but that’s the best way to do it. All I do is figure out which way the wind is blowing (start fire so the wind blows it into the pile) back my pickup up to the pile with my fuel tank light and piece of paper on fire and put my finger over the diesel fuel nozzle and spray the fire and let it spread! I don’t care how wet or green it is it should only take 10 gallons max to get a good fire going if you did it right!
     
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  14. Ronsii

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    I used to do the thumb over the nozzle.... but it wastes so much fuel :eek: especially at over 3 bucks a gallon!!! a small pump up sprayer will start quite a few piles :) or get yourself a weed burner torch and a propane tank ;) also like several have said keep the piles clean!!!
     
  15. jjhdozing

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    It does waste a bit of fuel but that’s the last of my worries! Another thing that works great is to get a cheap manual nozzle and weld a 4 ft extension on the end and weld the end shut and drill two small holes into it. That works nice also and let’s you shoot it out further! Sort of a pain to change nozzles but with couple wrenches and pipe dope only a 5 min deal
     
  16. joshbowling45

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    I just run an older 953 with a gp bucket on it. But I always rake the rootball off over the hole that it came out of. This is a picture of of the brush piles that I have been making in comparison with the height of the trackloader. Not as high as an excavator can stack but still seems like a pretty good vertical stack. Then I also attached a photo of a before and after finished product because why not
     

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  17. Tinkerer

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    Nice finished job, Josh. What is done to prevent erosion ?
     
  18. Oldcatpusher

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    Up in smoke like a cheech and chong party
     

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    Thanks! And sprayed with graze-on then reseeded. That picture was from this winter, haven't gotten any pictures after the grass came back on. There was a little erosion from the record rain fall that we received this year but the grass seemed to help keep the soil in place once it came on.
     
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