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help with a ls170
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irwin
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Bummer.. 
What ever it takes is how you get it off... jacks, pullers, heat. Try to take any tension off it (jacks, prying tools) and don't give up. The trick is to remove the tension.
Should you give up, the local HE repair shop might get it freed up in 10-20 minutes..
What ever it takes is how you get it off... jacks, pullers, heat. Try to take any tension off it (jacks, prying tools) and don't give up. The trick is to remove the tension.
Should you give up, the local HE repair shop might get it freed up in 10-20 minutes..
borken ls170
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the square part moves free but the round thing is stuck what part do i heat the other end is off so no tension left
irwin
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You have the pin out right? So the bushing is siezed to it?
I guess we need to know what is siezed to what. If it's the bushing, cut it out and install a new one durring reassembly? If it's something else...?
By lift cylinder you mean boom cylinder?
(a link to Messicks http://www.messicks.com/newhollandparts.aspx )
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willie59
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I'm not a NH person, and I'm not exactly certain of what your working on, but I'm gonna wager that "round thing" does not move. I can't tell in the pic what your working on, but if it is in fact the loader arm lift cylinder, I would say you have to pull the pin for the opposite end of the cylinder to release it from loader frame, then you could remove the cylinder from the round thing on opposite end of cylinder that does not move. Just a wild guess.
irwin
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In your top picture the round thing is the pin.. You removed a bolt from there..yes?
I'm not familar with your machine, but pins can be tough to remove... first make sure there isn't any locking bolt still in place... your picture isn't very helpful... once you are POSITIVE there is no other part securing that pin.. heat up the the inside, more than likely the pin is siezed to the bushing .. but ..First take a look at this..
#41 is the pin in the first picture
#31 in the second picture appears to be on the cabin side of the pin, is it still there? Not sure what it is, but it's at the pin hole.
I'm not familar with your machine, but pins can be tough to remove... first make sure there isn't any locking bolt still in place... your picture isn't very helpful... once you are POSITIVE there is no other part securing that pin.. heat up the the inside, more than likely the pin is siezed to the bushing .. but ..First take a look at this..
#41 is the pin in the first picture
#31 in the second picture appears to be on the cabin side of the pin, is it still there? Not sure what it is, but it's at the pin hole.
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irwin
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Thanks for jumping in, I think he's saying the other end is disconnected, but the round thing is siezed... I'm guessing it's the pin .. but hard to tell from the pictures...
irwin
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willie59
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Thanks for jumping in, I think he's saying the other end is disconnected, but the round thing is siezed... I'm guessing it's the pin .. but hard to tell from the pictures...
Well, I'm real reluctant to jump in on this one because I know very little about NH skids, TD25c knows much more about them than I do. I just can't tell much about the assembly of the unit by looking at the pics.
the round thing is the pin with a taper on it, hit the arm with a heavy hammer on the side of the arm at the bushing and it will break free. by on the side I mean at 90 degrees to the pin. It comes out toward the inside. That is the maintenance manual way of removing it I don't think any heat will be necessary.
frogfarmer
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stovein nailed it but nothing is ever as easy as it sounds Good Luck
willie59
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See, I told ya I know very little about NH machines. Bah ha ha ha :tong
And you're spot on frogfarmer, the phrase that drives me bonkers is...
"All we gotta do is..."
Never works that way.
borken ls170
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thanks to all i will smash this thing on Thursday:bash
willie59
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frogfarmer
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Super Booms are prone to these type of problems a good weld and a watchful eye will keep this from happening again.
borken ls170
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what is the cause of this type of damage it was broken when i got it
frogfarmer
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My #1 answer would be abuse. I service New Holland skids for an asphalt contractor who is constantly working them at capacity. Top of the cab and lights are destroyed from tipping into trucks. Never broken a boom in tens of thousands of hours they only buy New Holland. I service the same model units for a concrete contractor who could tear up an anvil. They have cracked and traded 4 units that I know of. Asphalt guys no extreme mechanical failures. Concrete guys have at one time or another had to replace every driveline component. Concrete guys buy whatever is cheap with the same results. Two seperate contractors using the same units with completely different outcomes. ABUSE!!!
borken ls170
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i got this unit from a garden center i payed 6000.00 for it it has 4000 hrs did i get the Stinky end of the stick?:throwup